Obama Approval Rating Falling!

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  1. Breeze Wood

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    #1681

    Well, there you go, everything in politics is possible...even the misleading statement above.

    In fact it is the R House - "found Congress with the highest disapproval rating ever - 82%". (Obama's disapproval at only - 52%)

    Considering there is over a year left before the 2012 elections and the Republicans have fired all their ammunition already the Administration with just a few breaks can easily regain the momentum.
     
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  2. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #1682
    Gallup seems to disagree with your assertion. With a job approval rating of 40%, I'd hardly call it "disapproval at ONLY - 52%"... Only? Wow...

    What's even more interesting is that Obama's highest ever approval rating is still 21% SOUTH of GWB's highest...
     
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  3. Breeze Wood

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    #1683


    Approval and Disapproval are two different pols.

    GWB's highest was just after 9-11.

    Since being elected and not having a day go by without additional problems to solve one might ask why Obama has not been impeached rather than an approval of 43.4.

    The bottom line is the Administration has done nothing of their own making to "Damage" the economy to give reason for not winning re-election.


    * the pol collapses when posted
     
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  4. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #1684
    And the fact remains (as you just cited) Obama has had the lowest approval and disapproval ratings...

    So I'm not sure what your problem is.
     
    Mia, Sep 7, 2011 IP
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    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #1685
    I always wonder how the folks at MSNBC sleep at night with comparisons such as these. It is a commonly known fact that congress polls badly with the American public because congress is not a person. When you poll any individual member of Congress, even someone as polarizing as Nancy Pelosi, they rank much higher. Apparently people have a much more difficult time disapproving of an actual individual with a partisan label than they do a body of people, partisan labels aside.

    Either way, the folks at the Media outlets are smart enough to know that the presentation of such a comparison is intellectually dishonest, causing folks like Breeze to look ignorant as they mindlessly repeat it.
     
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  6. Breeze Wood

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    #1686

    The ignorance of an imbecilic username, Obamanation is the presentation that precedes itself with dishonesty.


    The Generic Congressional Vote also has the Democrats ahead of the Republicans.

    All of which is surprising after the 2010 elections and the Republican dominated Summer.
     
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  7. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #1687
    The negative opinion most have of congress relates to people just like you mentioned. Pelosi, Reid, Rangel, Frank, Waters and on and on. The current and very recent past and present polls of America's approval of Congress is indicative of an America that is sick of the status quo. And given whom the status quo was, is and still represents, its fairly easy to discern what the reality is.
     
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  8. Breeze Wood

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    #1688
    Congress with the highest disapproval rating ever - 82%

    The above post by Mia is absurd - The Tea Party Congress was blindly voted into Office in 2010 and is proven by the present pols to be the least popular of any Congress ever poled. Irrespective the individual members but as a reflection of its proceedings.

    The economic chaos of the 07-09 Republican Recession which a majority of the American people are themselves responsible for is the dilemma that group has in reconciling the fact the present Administration has successfully curtailed their recession and the necessary steps to continue for a full recovery is what that public is still unwilling to accept.

    Replacing the present Administration is only a "fools goal" for claiming credit for a recovery that has already been accomplished.
     
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  9. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #1689
    Tea Party Congress... now I've heard it all...

    Breeze, we're currently in a economic depression and have been for a couple years now.

    07-09 was the highest revenue generation period for business, personal income and the federal government in our history.

    The only thing absurd here is your continual drunken banter and delusional rants.
     
    Mia, Sep 8, 2011 IP
  10. Breeze Wood

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    #1690

    It is you who is delusional to insist there is an economic Depression, GDP has been positive since June of 09.

    You fantasies a condition of negative growth to fit your political objective that otherwise has no merit....keep making up stories (WMD) is why you are left with no other alternative.
     
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    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #1691
    GDP has been stagnant and flat. Unemployment claims are rising and more and more people are out of work every day.

    There's nothing positive about that.

    Breeze, in order to have a positive recovery you need a few consecutive quarters of double digit growth in GDP and an increase in hiring. Neither has come even remotely close to happening.

    We are currently in a "negative growth" period.
     
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    #1692

    The (Republican) Depression was Dec. 07 to June 09 when GDP was negative in all respective quarters......


    Again Mia, you lapse into delusion....(Hint) A Doctors visit with co-pay is not to expensive.

    GDP has been positive every quarter since June 09 to date.


    Further stimulus due to the "retrenchment" in the economy caused by the 2010 election, Tea Party House is now being advocated by the Administration, and is the answer to your dilemma.
     
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  13. Mia

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    #1693
    Now lets come back to earth for a moment.

    All four quarters of fiscal 2007 showed positive a positive GDP with an overall 1.9% growth in GDP.

    Quarter one of 2008 saw a -1.8% Growth in GDP.

    Quarter two of 2008 saw a 1.3% Growth in GDP.

    (by definition a recession is two consecutive quarters of Negative GDP)

    The remainder of fiscal 2008 saw a -.3% growth in GDP with the last two quarters negative consecutively and therefore by definition a recession.

    Then in 2009 if you look at the GDP by quarter there is only one negative quarter.

    Q1-2009 = -6.4%
    Q2-2009 = -0.7%
    Q3-2009 = +2.2%
    Q4-2009 = +5.9%

    All of 2009 = -2.4%
    All of 2008 = +0.4%
    All of 2007 = + 1.9%

    If you look at the downward trend in GDP from the 07-09 period you keep whining about and you also look at the administration in power it paints a pretty interesting picture.

    I'm hoping by presenting things in a more vertical manor you'll finally realize where your math and mind are off.



    Had a physical back in March ... Was given an excellent bill of health. And I paid out of my pocket FYI.

    It has, but it's been on a steep downward trend.

    In order to have some type of "Recovery", you really need to see double digit gains in GDP.


    Breeze, how do you account for the HUGE job losses over those "growth" periods in GDP?
    The reality is kiddo, there never was a recession in 07-09, nor was there a depression. There was a deep correction, that if left alone would have rebounded.

    Instead you guys continue to throw more gas on a fire that should have burnt out on its own years ago.

    Care to explain your fascination with the tea party? I've noticed a disturbing shift in the blame-o-rama game you liberals tend to play.

    Since it's no longer popular to blame Bush, you've morphed all that negativity and unwillingness to accept responsibility into blaming the Tea Party for everything.
     
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  14. Breeze Wood

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    #1694
    ...............



    No Mia, WMD really did not work in convincing people who knew the truth about Iraqi and certainly the same tactic will not work in trying to hide from the Great Republican Recession.

    The present Administration will be forever remembered in history for its heroic and successful curtailment of a Recession that easily could have surpassed even the 1930's Depression.
     
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    #1695
    Ssssshhhh... Breeze is sleep-typing again. Don't wake him up... He loves this dream.
     
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  16. Mia

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    #1696
    Ironic that the current economic condition is very similar to the 1930's... And gee, look who was in charge then and now... hmm...

    Me thinks you're onto something here breezey.
     
    Mia, Sep 9, 2011 IP
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    #1697
    Somebody please tell me how Obama's proposed plan fixes what caused the Democratic Depression in the first place - unregulated credit-default swaps.

    And I didn't see any incentives for the banks to start lending money now. Yesterday, Dylan Ratigan on MSNBC said that loans are down by $1 trillion.
     
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  18. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #1698
    Even with great credit and assets that are in excess of your requesting loan/dollar amount - it's impossible to get a loan right now. Unless its a car you're buying.
     
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    #1699
    True. I know a guy that went to his bank last month and asked for a loan that was much less than the cash and investments he had in that bank. The bank refused without comment.
     
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  20. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #1700
    I have been trying to get financing since the beginning of this year for my home. All I wanted was to reduce the term and interest rate but pay the same amount we are now. This way I can pay off the loan in under 10 years... 3 banks and thousands on appraisals and other bull shit, and have been told NO, NO, NO... Either banks don't have the cash, or they do not want to lend it. I don't owe much on the home and its worth more than I owe, even in this shitty economy.

    Pretty sad...

    Yet some solar company got a 1/2 a billion dollars in secure government loans... Go figure...
     
    Mia, Sep 9, 2011 IP