Obama an Elitist? Just Another Word For Uppity Negro.

No. You can't call your own people such slurs either. A racist slur is a racist slur regardless of who uses it IMHO.

 

slave owner....

 

Ah, lamentable that facetious intent is oft lost in electronic translation.

But in response to the above, I can and will say anything I please in America. Regardless of whether that be hateful or hurtful to some, it is a right guaranteed by the Constitution. With the number of different ideas and beliefs, this right also guarantees you (you, me, everybody) will occasionally be offended - and you have no right *not* to be offended. The PC police, running around dictating what can and can not be said based solely on *their* standards, makes me sick. It's censorship, and an abridgment of free speech, which has no place in America.

 

Nice post. I would argue however that Obama IS being judged by the content of his character. It is that "content" which is scrutinized that has been rebutted with continual race baiting and has caused many to play the race card when "race" had nothing to do with it.

Race did not matter until Obama made it an issue. To me, making it an issue was just as wrong as using a speech to divert attention from the reality that he was associated with someone that likes to make it an issue.

The Wright Race Hate Speech as I like to refer to it is what I am eluding to.

Its really difficult to unify people when you play to one side or the other out of pure convenience. Part of the reason people respected Dr. King was because he did not make his cause about being black or white. He made it about who we all are, not what we all look like.

Obama, whether people want to admit it or not, have made race an issue from day one, when again - it was not an issue.

If race is not an issue, why then is it necessary to tout the "First Black" this or that? Especially when that is not even an accurate depiction of ethnic reality.

Honestly, who gives a rats ass? Wouldn't it be nice to have the best, most qualified person for the job? What's more important? I could care less what color, gender, or nationality.

So I say again, disagree with Obama's policy or an Obama Groupie, and you are dubbed a racist.

 

True. I have gotten into trouble more than once for that ......

 

Go to a police officer and tell him to "GO **** YOURSELF!"
Go to a school principal and tell him you are a pedophile.
Go to court and tell the judge to "KISS YOUR ***"
Go to the FBI and tell them you are going to kill the President.
Go to a bank and say "This is a stick up!"
Go to a crowded theatre and yell "FIRE!"

You'll see how FREE your precious speech is.

 

I think you summed it up perfect. If you say anything about Obama your a racist. Obama made a very racist speech on fathers day and nothing was said about it. If McCain would have said the same thing he would be lynched in the papers.

 

"People in American society". Sounds like you're referring to white people. If you honestly believe that all white people have no familiarity with or are "uncomfortable with" all black people you seem to be harboring some mighty racist attitudes of your own.

Obama was raised by white people and is half-white by blood. He is a "bi-racial" candidate for President, in the interest of being completely accurate. Referring to him as the first "black" anything just really isn't accurate.

 

Point one fails because "People in American society" does not sound like "White People". What could possibly be more generic in referring to the people in America?

Point Two: True!

 

This says it all.

 

Good reply Pioneer. The only problem is, with the exception of the first example you used, every example is tantamount to threatening or admitting to an actual crime...usually unrelated to the issue of speech. The only criminal example you used directly relating to speech is the theater one, yet this can incite a riot, which is illegal. The Constitution allows large groups to *peaceably* assemble...riots don't count.

And I have told a cop to go f*ck himself. I was riding in the passenger seat of a vehicle that got pulled over for speeding. The driver got a warning for the speeding, and I got a ticket for not wearing my seat belt. The only thing he could say was, "There's no need for such language." To which I replied, "F*ck you."

 

If I was referring to just "White People" I would have said it. What I meant was PEOPLE. AMERICANS. OTHER THAN BLACK.

Is that clear enough ?

I don't know why everyone is reading so much into this.
No one ever said that you cannot criticize Obama.
You can criticize anyone you want, but just because he is a public figure, does not mean that you can get away with things that the average person would kick your ass for, like "Barack the Magic Negro", for example.

People seem to think that they can hide behind the protection of lampooning a public figure, and that will give them liberty to say otherwise offensive things.
I merely pointed out a few of them that would be otherwise unacceptable, public figure or not.

If someone took a picture of my daughters and wrote "nappy headed hoes" on it, I would kick his ass (as would you)
If someone walked up to me on the street and said, "Hey look , a magic negro !" I would kick his ass (as would you)

Hiding behind "freedom of Speech" as an excuse to be offensive is a cowardly way to express yourself. I can guarantee that some of the things that people have been so comfortable with saying on radio shows, and news interviews...they would never say to his face, or any other black mans face in a closed room.

The point is, if the basis of your criticism is race, or racial in it's undertones, then that IS a problem. Like in the examples I gave before hand.

Those of you that keep trying to make the point, "that if you criticize him about anything, then you are a racists", are using misdirection.

I gave a specific example.

The other stuff ....YOU made up.

Question his experience, you're a racist
Question his patriotism, you're a racist
Question his wife's salary increase, you're a racist
Question his upbringing, you're a racist
Question his shady home loan, you're a racist
Question his religion, you're a racist
Question his policy, you're a racist
Question his inability to hold down a job, you're a racist
Question his lack of commitment to his current constituents, you're a racist

I have no idea where all that came from. It was never mentioned here, and it certainly had nothing to do with the article.
I was very direct and specific with what I was talking about, and even gave a specific example to why it was considered offensive to me based on the history of how it was used.

I love the way some, like to tell others how to feel. Just as stupid as when non-black people (and yes this time I mean White People), like to use logic re guarding the "N" word.

Believe it or not, some have said to my face, "Well...("N"-word) doesn't necessarily mean black, there are white ("N" word) and black ("N" word), so just because I say it doesn't mean I am talking about black people.

(Of course that was the rhetoric after you heard them use the terminology, or when it slipped out because they forgot that you were there)

It's funny, I have searched my history far and wide, and I just can't come up with any documented proof over the last 400 years where the "N" word was used to describe anyone other than black people.
I must have missed that in my history classes.

 

What's funny about that? Who said otherwise? Did I miss something?

This may be off topic, but I don't understand this whole, "We are oppressed by the white man, thing." (No, I did not hear you say this, but let me make my point.) I've been hearing this crap all my life. I was raised with black friends, worked with black people on my team, drank and partied with blacks. My ancestors have never owned slaves. It's only in corversations like this that I ever use the term "black" as it applies to a person. But still I hear all this whining. (And not necessarily by you.)

Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton bitch and whine all day long and make a good living doing it, but they never speak to the black community. More single black mothers than ever, more blacks in prison. Being raised in single parent families is the single determining factor that could change the lives of an entire race. I guess Jesse and Al are just looking for job security.

 

*Sigh* First of all. I don't know Jesse or Al so they cannot possibly speak for me let alone the other millions of black people in the U.S. And...they spend most of their time speaking to the black community, particularly in the churches where they are Reverends. They also continuously speak at schools, universities, and yes political rallies and conventions.

Secondly, there are more whites in prison than any other group..it's just a fact because there are more whites per capita. ( I don't even want to get into the supreme court case that found that blacks caught with cocaine received far more lengthier sentences than whites caught with the same amount of cocaine )

I don't know who is doing all this bitching, because it's not me and my friends. Maybe you should hang out with people who don't whine so much.

Lastly, My Father died when I was 5, and I was raised by a single mother and I think I turned out just fine... so that opinion is just that..YOUR OPINION. What separates people in this country, particularly how children are raised is a direct reflection of Education and Economics. It has nothing to do with race, although societal prejudices through the 60's (of all types of people) would have a direct connection to economics.

If you are raised by an idiot, you have a great chance of being an idiot.

You don't know enough to start generalizing about a complete race of people, and it is ignorant to do without any concrete documentation, interviews, and knowing millions of people of that particular group to back up your generalizations.

I am glad that you have drank and partied with black people, so have I . [You have no idea how pathetically stupid that sounds when people say that, almost as if they are trying to prove something ] If you done anything outside of where you grew up, the odds are in America you have interacted with all kinds of people...there is no need to start counting and separating them. IT"S AMERICA.

This isn't an issue of "whitey vs. the negros"...it's about specifically singling out race when making a point or critique. It doesn't matter what race it is.

Some people are sensitive to certain issues and phrases, and it is insensitive to use them and not expect someone to say something.

If I started a record company and named it Auschwitz , I am sure Jews everywhere would have something to say about it.

Hate and ignorance and the scars that it leaves never go away. People live with them forever, so you can't just wake up one day at 22 yrs old and decide that you are going to tell people how to feel.

The solution to diffuse this in our society(America) is not to ignore it or play "He said , she said" or, "I work with black people so I don't know what all the uproar is, " but to recognize what our history really is and where we have come from, so that we do not return there.

We have a history in America if treating EVERYONE with prejudice at some point in out history:

Native Americans - the obvious
Italians - Were though of as unclean, and shunned in American society. there is documented proof that many Italian Immigrants were chase down and hung.
Polish
Jews - treated the same as Italians, and were frequently attacked and yes hung.
Blacks - I'll leave that one alone.
Mexicans - Just watch the news for that one.
Cubans
Filipino
Japanese- Citizens, rounded up with their families during WWII and thrown in "Detention" camps. Many lost everything.
Chinese - After helping to build the transcontinental railroad, were treated a outcast in America, and many still are treated that way today, unless they own a Cleaners or restaurant.

...and the list goes on. The ignorant part of it is, those that have and do practice prejudice ways in this country, are probably the direct descendants of people who were treated the exact same way. Everyone had to come form somewhere...there is no mysterious country called "Whitopia" where plain white people come from with no culture, ethnic backgrounds, and religion.

That is the problem, we have no idea who we are, and where we come from. so we have created this little racial pyramid in our country, and that is the only thing that some people have to hold on to , that gives them any self worth.

 

Agreed. It is a problem everywhere. The human race is divided - by race, colour, financial ability, religion, country, state, size .............

We must stop dividing ourselves and try to unite and work together for the betterment of all humanity.

 

Not so much as to dispute your point, I however have said it as long as I can remember there are white 'n word' just as their is in any race. I myself have never truly used the word, when people do use it I usually retort with my personal feeling 'as with any word used to attack another' it can be used for any race. I see the word in a definition outside of race, even if it for the most part is used for one race throughout history.

In short I see worthless excuses for human beings from the black community as I equally see them from the white community and others, I do not make it a racial distinction.

This 'stance' of mine has always been there, but was further cemented when I worked in a factory as a lead man, a very nice black woman 'might not be PC but I'll put it that way' who worked for me was the best damn worker I ever had! Her son even worked for me, he also was an excellent worker, I did not see race I simply seen 2 people who worked extremely well while many of the white/black/hispanic/etc that also worked in the factory and for me at times could be considered by my definition 'the n word'

Hope that makes sense

 

First off, there is so much that you say that I agree with. I've always resented the fact that I was part of the "accused." Like I said, when I was a kid and all thru high school my best friends and next door neighbors were black. We played together, ate together, rode our bikes together, built tree houses together, and got in trouble together. Please don't minimize this. It's more than just "partied with blacks", OK? No more pathetically stupid comments, alright?

When I put R&B bands together, no one ever says "Don't hire him, he's black". That's just nuts.

That is why I hate this whole, "oppressed by the white man" thing.

About the single parent comment, it's actually not just my opinion AND it's not just me generalizing.

http://www.heritage.org/Research/Welfare/CDA01-04.cfm

I am sorry if I was not clear. The point that I tried to make is that this issue is more about single parents causing hardship than being of a certain race. That pertains to blacks only because it is more prevalent in the black community. How many of the problems that face black youth today would go away if mom and dad would stay together?

Look, Obama made a speech with the same message and received rave reviews.

This is not an answer to all of life's problems, but it sure sounds like a good start.

 

I would better ask, is McCain a war paranoid or just a senile looser?

 

Have you ever kissed a goat on the butt as much as you wanted too?

 

The only time in my life I have used that word was in giving a presentation on the Autobiography of Dick Gregory. It was the title of the book. I was even uncomfortable using it in that context.

I am by no means perfect, but why would anybody knowingly use an offensive term to describe other people? When I learn that some word I have been using is offensive I try to stop using that word. However, I think this has nothing to do with being politically correct, it has to do with treating others with the same respect and dignity I expect to be treated with.