Nun was gang raped and priest brutally assaulted in Kandhamal, India

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    Bhubaneswar: The Orissa government has failed to take any action, under the law of the land, against those who committed bestial crimes — the gang rape of a 28-year-old Catholic nun and the brutal attack on a Catholic priest who courageously resisted their attempts to force him to participate in the atrocity. These incidents took place on August 25 at K. Nuagaon, 12 km from the Baliguda subdivision in Kandhamal district. Both victims filed First Information Reports at the Baliguda police station. Sister Nirmala, Superior-General of the Missionaries of Charity, wrote to the Orissa Chief Minister and the Prime Minister specifying the atrocities.

    The brutalisation of the nun and the priest by a mob raising anti-Christian, Hindutva slogans took place around 1 p.m. at the site of the Divya Jyothi Pastor Centre. The church was burnt the previous day in reprisal against the murder of an RSS activist, Lakshmanananda Saraswathi, and four of his associates on August 23. The gang rape of the young nun, whose “virginity [was] grossly violated in public” (and whose identity is being withheld by this newspaper to protect her privacy) took place in front of a police outpost with 12 policemen from the Orissa State Armed Police present and watching, according to Father Thomas Chellan, the priest who was dragged out and badly beaten.

    “Around 1 p.m., a gang came and pulled me and the Sister out of the house where we had taken shelter and started assaulting us,” Father Chellan told The Hindu in a telephonic interview from Kerala where he is recuperating.

    “My appeals to the policemen who were standing nearby and watching only resulted in further beating. At one point the nun slipped away to plead with the police for help but she was dragged back by the mob and her blouse torn,” he said. The nun was gang raped in a nearby building, and he was doused with kerosene by the mob, which threatened to set him on fire. They were saved by a group of youth who took them to the police outpost where “one among the attackers was present with the police between 3 p.m. and 9 p.m.,” Father Chellan said.

    News of the K-Nuagaon atrocity was conveyed through mobile phones to several priests and nuns hiding in the forests, fearing for their lives as the anti-Christian hunt was on. The victims were taken to the Baliguda police station around 9 p.m. where they filed First Information Reports. “I believe the Sister wrote in her complaint that she was raped,” Father Chellan said.

    The atrocity, about which the State government has not gone public, has outraged and terrified Christian organisations working in Kandhamal district. News of it was brought to the notice of Chief Minister Naveen Patnaik by Raphael Cheenath, Archbishop of the Cuttack-Bhubaneshwar diocese.

    Sister Nirmala wrote letters to the Orissa Chief Minister and the Prime Minister on this and other brutal attacks on Christians in Orissa. In her letter, dated August 28, 2008, to Chief Minister Patnaik, she took up “a very sad incident, soon after the eruption of the violence” of “one young sister, consecrated to God, who was administrator of an institute, being hunted out of her hiding place and stripped naked by the mob and her virginity grossly violated in public, without any help from the police present there.”

    In her appeal for protection to Christians, Sister Nirmala urged the Chief Minister to “ask the Central Govt. for as many extra forces from the Centre as they are willing to give and you need.”

    When contacted, Praveen Kumar, Superintendent of Police, Kandhamal district, told The Hindu that investigations into the episode by a Deputy Superintendent of Police were on and “the law will take its course.” He confirmed that no arrests have been made in connection with the incidents.

    Just came across this :mad: Full article is HERE
     
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    It's a sick, sick world we live in.

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    And people actually believe there's a god. :rolleyes:
     
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    Thankfully, there is a God. However, we humans have free choice to do good ... or to do evil.

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    Quoted For Truth (QFT was too short :mad: )
     
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    Must be a nice guy, your god, to stand by and watch the gang rape of a nun safe in the knowledge that it's a result of free will.

    Where was the nuns free will? or is the "free will" card only played when you have to find an excuse as to why a supposedly all powerful, all loving god would stand back and observe this disgusting atrocity with arms folded?

    Just think what kind of person it would make you if you, a mere mortal, were to use the excuse that the rapist has free will as justification for not helping someone. Then apply the same standards to something omniscient and omnipotent.
     
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    If we have the choice to do whatever we want to do, what role does god play in our lives? And why do we need the hypothesis of god?
     
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    Ultimately, God gave us the ability to say "yes or no" to him. This particularly is the case when it comes to salvation. As far as our day to day lives though, he still plays a role in the sense that he wants to guide us down a specific path that he has laid out for each of us, that doesn't mean we can't stray away from it though.
     
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    If he has a specific path for each of us and wants to guide us down that lane, why would he give us the right to say 'yes' or 'no'? And if anyone can say 'no' to god and keep him away, then how do you explain god being 'omnipotent'? :rolleyes:
     
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    He did not create us to be robots. How does saying "no" remove his quality of being omnipotent? There is one important thing here, for God, there are no limitations. Could he force us to serve him? Sure he could, but the bible clearly indicates that he wants that to be something we choose for ourselves.
     
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    And then he just burns us in hell forever if we don't believe in him based on nothing but a primitive bronze age book of myths. sounds fair, nice guy. :rolleyes:
     
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    There is nothing we can do on our own behalf that deserves anything better. We are naturally horrible and disgusting beings. :)
     
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    That's a good way to put it. :)

    I'm not here to debate the existence of God -- you have a choice, you can decide for yourself. I know where I stand and if you disagree with me then that is fine. You evidently choose to believe that there is no God ... and I accept you for who you are.

    Let me just ask you a question though:

    Speaking of free will, would you rather God have complete control over us where we were not allowed to make decisions and do what we want? Is that what you prefer? Would you rather us all be 'good little robots'?

    Not me. I like my freedom to think and choose on my own.

    Yes, it is absolutely horrible what happened to that nun. It's terrible and it makes me angry that things like that happen. Horrible things happen all around us everyday. Why?

    Well, it's pretty simple really:
    Bad people do bad things.

    The good people of this world have an obligation to stand up to bad people and intervene in situations where someone is being harmed. Instead of blaming God for something like this, why don't we ask ourselves "What can I do to make our world a better place to live in?"

    If good people would stand up and resist the evil that goes on in this world, this world would be a much better place.

    And just to clarify, no I do not mean that the nun should have stood up and fought. What I'm saying is that we all have a responsibility to look out for each other ... especially those that are weaker then us.

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    I personally do not believe in this theory of God protecting us. We are there for ourselves.
    Its us who makes the decisions, not God.

    And I think we are deviating from the issue here: Its us, mankind, who have deteriorated to such an extent, that no one can be trusted in today's world. You walk out of your home, and you are not sure if you would make it back home. Robbery, Road rages, terrorism etc. have taken a toll on quality of life.

    The world is in a crisis situation and its all because humans seem to have forgotten what humanity is!!!
    Its not Gods fault. If you decide to kill yourself today, nothing much your parents can do about it. The creator only creates!! Its the individual who has to decide how to lead his life!!!!
     
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    That's exactly right! We all choose and make our own decisions ... good or bad!

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    Speak for yourself. I pity this self hatred that is common among the religious. Do you think your belief in something higher is partly a result of your low self esteem, or is your low self esteem something taught to you by your religion?

    Incidentally, One of the tactics used by cults to brain wash people is to break them down by convincing them that they are worthless and then build them back up by saying that by being a part of something bigger they can redeem themselves. the similarity between that and what you just said is staggering.
     
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    If we are indeed what you said, then god must be damned. After all, he 'created' us, didn't he? He could have done a better job. :rolleyes:
     
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    Well, I can't speak for others, but I have a healthy level of self esteem and I'm sure PHPGator does too.

    Mark
     
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    Again, would you rather God have complete control over us where we were not allowed to make decisions and do what we want? Is that what you prefer? Would you rather us all be 'good little robots'?

    Not me. I like my freedom.

    Mark
     
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    I think you are still missing the key component. He gave us choice. Unlike God, since we are not God, we all make poor decisions. Thankfully, we can become perfect in his eyes, but that doesn't mean that we deserve grace, he loves us enough to give it to us despite our blemishes.
     
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