Nun shot dead as apology by Pope fails to quell the violence

You keep ignoring the point. I'll keep it short this time.

What people do in the name of our religion does not justify your rejection.

 

It justifies everyone's rejection including yours. There is no justification for the hateful crimes committed in the name of islam. I invite you to leave islam and stop making excuses for it's violence and intolerance of others. Trust me, there are no virgins.

 

Responce of the century! I was expecting a bit more than that


btw, I agree there is no justification for the hateful crimes committed in the name of Islam.

We're back to where we started. Let's move on please. I'm not asking you to justify the crimes.. lol.. justify your rejection of Islam based on these crimes. You still don't get it huh.

In this thread I satisfied the request made by your buddy KalvinB for prophecies. After taking one particular prophecy and discussing how it came to pass in great detail, your buddy Kalvinb switched the topic by presenting two examples of what he thought were nonsense, only later to acknowledge that there were in fact no errors in what he presented. Let me repeat that, he quoted two examples from hadith of what he thought was rediculous nonsense. Later it was shown that both in fact were based on science.

His responce was that it's all plagerized, as if I was the one who presented the hadiths to begin with

Then the master tipped his hat to KalvinB and excused him from the discussion.

But you see, those were the important discussions. We both know the reason why those discussions were not let to continue...

 

Islam = bondage

whether you like it or not.

 

You're not asking anyone to justify the crimes because there is no justification to the crimes. You're asking people to tolerate a religion that has been proven time and again to be behind heineous atrocities to innocent lives.

Woman being executed in cold blood.


"I have seen that the majority of the dwellers of Hell-Fire were women....[because] they are ungrateful to their husbands and they are deficient in intelligence. " (The Prophet Muhammad) Sahih Bukhari V 2, B 24, N 541

http://www.faithfreedom.org/Articles.htm#women

Please tell us why/how we're supposed to tolerate a religion where this type of act is condoned and even encouraged. You can't. It just isn't going to happen. Barking up the wrong tree, pal. I'm just saving you some time because it isn't worth arguing over.

 

Islam has become a set of fundamentals which preach social segregation, hatred of non-Muslims and elimination of dissenters through dominance, death and destruction. These conclusions, no matter how true, cannot be palatable to the Muslims and therefore rank as fabrications, from their standpoint. I can do no better than quote from the Koran to decide the issue. Examine the following for yourself:

1. "Do not let non-Muslims enter mosques. They will go to hell." ( Repentance: 17 )

2. "O ye who believe! The non-Muslims are unclean. So let them not come near the Inviolable Place of Worship." (Repentance: 28)

3. "O ye who believe! MURDER those of the disbelievers .... and let them find harshness in you." (Repentance: 123)

4. "Humiliate the non-Muslims to such an extent that they surrender and pay tribute." (Repentance: 29)

5. "O believers, do not treat your fathers and brothers as your friends, if they prefer unbelief to belief, whosoever of you takes them for friends, they are evil-doers." (Repentance: 20)

6. "Certainly, God is an enemy to the unbelievers." ( The Cow: 90 )

7. "God has cursed the unbelievers, and prepared for them a blazing hell." ( The Confederates 60 )

8. "Let not the believers take the unbelievers for friends.... whoso does that belongs not to God." (The House of Imram: 60)

9. "O believers, do not make friends with the Jews and Christians; ..whoso of you makes them his friend is one of them." (The Table: 55)

10. "The believers indeed are brothers." ( Apa rtments: 10 )

11. "Moslems are hard against the unbelievers, merciful to one another." (Victory: 25)

A Muslim naturally believes in all such Koranic verses, which determine his social outlook and he becomes a narrow- minded sectarian. This psychological approach is the fountain of fundamentalism. It is a myth to say that Islam advocates good relationship with the People of the Book, that is, the Jews and Christians. What I have said at 9 above supports this statement. If this were not enough, one could refer the matter to HADITH, the sayings of the Prophet: Chapter LXXI of SAHIH MUSLIM clearly states that since Islam is the religion for the entire humanity, it abrogates all other faiths. To illustrate the point further, the hadith no.285 asserts that any Jew or Christian who has heard of Muhammad but does not believe in him, will become "one of the denizens of Hell-Fire."


http://www.faithfreedom.org/Articles/AnwarSheikh/islamic_morality.htm

 

There is no justification to the crimes. Visit this link for some of the reasons (not justifications) of why Muslims are becoming increasingly violent.

It's very easy to ignore refutations (by not posting them on the website) and maintain the facade that the accusations have not been addressed. The author of that website and those like them have been exposed a few times here:

http://www.examinethetruth.com/page_against_01.htm#winn

The way they work is, they will show you an incident or quote, and not the 100 others that counterbalance or explain it, and that's assuming the original quote was fully typed out to begin with.

http://thetruereligion.org/modules/wfsection/print.php?articleid=265

http://qa.sunnipath.com/issue_view.asp?HD=7&ID=7547&CATE=3600

Doesn't every single religious scripture promiss the greatest of punishments for those that deny the truth... Apart from the less than accurate translations, the killing related verses are obviously talking about war.