Notice the Obama supporters are getting scarce?

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  1. Corwin

    Corwin Well-Known Member

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    #81
    Obama mas made every mistake possible because he LACKS EXPERIENCE.

    He is used to getting his way the easy way. But the character of a man is determined when there is resistance. Even if I give him cred for trying, he simply isn't a leader - he doesn't know how to persuade an opposition to his side. Instead Pelosi is leading him around by the nose.

    Obama's #1 mistake is assuming that Chicago politics works in Washington. It doesn't. Chicago politics only works in Chicago. New York politics works in Washington.

    And, I'm beginning to doubt Obama's "liberal" label. From the bank bailouts to the Automotive bailout to shoveling money at unions, letting BP get away with that mess in the Gulf, and a health care bill that is already filling the coffers of the insurance companies - Obama is not a liberal or a conservative, he's a corporatist. He sells himself to the highest bidder.
     
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  2. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #82
    Looking at the poll numbers right now, it seems that a lot of Americans are thinking "We never realized how good we had it before Barack Obama!"
     
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  3. Breeze Wood

    Breeze Wood Peon

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    #83
    Barack Obama has absolutely nothing to do with the Great Recession left behind by the Bush Administration and the policies and principles of the Republican party that led to its cause.


    Besides not being a real word no President needs to sell themselves to anyone and in fact is probably the freest person on earth to do just whatever they like.

    The Obama Administration in the last two years has passed legislation that will be debated and improved for generations to come while at the same time averted an economic Depression commissariat to the Great Depression of the 1930s.

    The backlash is from the same groups who are responsible for calamities of their own making initiated by reactionary principles that repeatedly over time prove deleterious and without merit.

    The midterms have yet to be determined and on Nov.2nd will be decided in a favorable lite for the present Administration.
     
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  4. Will.Spencer

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  5. Breeze Wood

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    #85
    There is no current one Spencer the liberals prevented the recurrence of history from your last one.....nice try though and we stopped it with your money.
     
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  6. vitalbusiness

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    #86
    Back in 2001 - 2006 I had to travel a lot for my job. I lived in a very secluded community at the time where everyone seemed to be doing fine. But my job took me to the cities like Detroit and Buffalo and Ann Arbor and even back then a great deal of people there lived in the state of poverty. I don't think it was all that great during the Bush's administration, we just didn't hear much about it.
     
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  7. Will.Spencer

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    #87
    Well... back then... only about half as many Americans were looking for jobs... and they were finding jobs a lot quicker when they did look.
     
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  8. vitalbusiness

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    #88
    I think it was bad back then, but what Obama did was he took away the hope and inspiration that the American people still had under Bush. Funny how "hope and change" became "no hope".
     
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  9. Obamanation

    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #89
    Great post. Bait and switch makes for a cynical and angry voting population. Hiugo Chavez has hopes and wants change, its just that his hopes and desired changes aren't shared by anyone in the middle class who have fled his country.
     
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  10. Breeze Wood

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    #90


    The hopes and inspirations of the American people were directed by the Bush Administration to a near world wide economic catastrophe the present Administration has concluded with little to no lasting effect. Hope and inspiration is the future for this country whether the efforts of the Obama Administration are appreciated or not.

    Under the present conditions there is an orderly transition occurring that will prove at least predictable if undesired. The pendulum is not swinging from one edge to the other but to the center.

    The generational differences in the long run will prosper in a healthy environment due to the past two years than if nothing were accomplished and an economic Depression had occurred and been the dictates to everyones lives.
     
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  11. vitalbusiness

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    #91
    Breeze, the scientific studies have recently proven that one has to have a special genetic predisposition to become a liberal democrat. This fact alone is scary. It means they are controlled by their genetic impulses rather than their rational thinking. And to be honest with you I see it happening all over the place. They are the most intolerant people you will ever meet. The most annoying people too. Barney Frank is their true face. They voted for Obama in hopes that he will drive America into anarchy where anything goes. Where everybody drives these little electric cars and worship the nature. But it's not happening and so now they're turning against Obama himself. Just watch this. These people are a real danger to the American people, not the Tea Party folks.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5OSC3BgmUA
     
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  12. Obamanation

    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #92
    Funny video. Ironic that Obama lied to his own constituency in the video to try and shut them up, claiming he is funding Global AIDS while the opposition is not. Truth is, Bush did more for Global AIDS than any president in history, including Obama.

    Many years ago in Afghanistan, we taught a small number of insurgents how to make a country ungovernable for a foreign occupier(Russia). It seems that some of those who picked up those skills applied them in ways that were not exactly pleasing to us. Obama, a student of Alinsky, has probably been teaching people like the ones disrupting his rally the tactics of Alinsky for a long time. Liberals having been using those tactics to try and shut down free speech for a long time. Its pretty comic and ironic that they come back to his own event to say thanks for the lesson.
     
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  13. jivens

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    #93
    blah, Obama was more of a pop culture figure I believe BUT he definitely hasn't turned out to be a "terrorist" or "evil", I thought those accusations were crazy and stupid
     
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    #94
    lol epic!!!
     
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  15. Will.Spencer

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    #95
    I find it interesting how wildly different the current prognostications are regarding the coming election results. Is it the Democrats or the Republicans who are living in their own self-reinforced fantasy land, or could it be both parties?

    And why would either party claim victory at this point? Wouldn't claiming to be near losing be more motivational for their supporters?
     
    Will.Spencer, Nov 1, 2010 IP
  16. Corwin

    Corwin Well-Known Member

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    #96
    I watched a fascinating discussion on CSPAN2 yesterday (yes, CSPAN!) about the modern political climate. They talked about how the Tea Party is dangerous because it is completely misunderstood by both major parties.

    Democrats like Howard Dean think it's a phony grass-roots movement sponsored by Republicans. Republican party chairman Michael Steel thinks that the Republicans can tap the Tea Party supporters. They are both wrong.

    It's disillusioned Obama voters on the Left, frustrated Independents in the middle, and frustrated Conservatives (not necessarily Republicans) on the right.

    What the Republicans don't understand is why the Tea Party isn't blindly supporting Republican candidates
    What the Democrats don't understand is that they think people must be ruthlessly herded like sheep and so the movement must be a fake.

    The truth is, if you look at the polls, the Tea Party is actually taking more votes away from Democrats than Republicans. In races where Tea Party candidates are near winning. Republicans are polling about 10% less than they would in that district, while Democrats are polling near half. The result is a close race is between the Republican and the Tea Party candidate with the Democrat a distant third.

    This is reminiscent of 1953 when the Republicans split off from the Democrats. The races were between the new Republicans and the Democrats who had real solutions to the issue of slavery, while the Whigs had no new ideas and so went off into obscurity.

    This is what is going to happen to the Democrats. According to a Boston Democratic pollster I spoke to, they are experiencing a "failure of rhetoric" - like Breeze, no one believes what they say anymore. The angry rhetoric and lies coming from the Left is backfiring and creating a tsunami of resentment for the Democrats.

    The races will be between the Tea Party and the Republicans, who will have real solutions to corruption and size of government. Meanwhile the Democrats will have no new ideas on these issues and so, like the Whigs, will go off into obscurity.

    My guess - the first Tea Party candidate for President will be Hillary Clinton.
     
    Corwin, Nov 1, 2010 IP
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    #97
    Who will not be voting is the scarcity that will be determined Nov.2.

    The Republicans feel betrayed their money rather than services being cut by the Democrats was used to thwart the pub Grand Recession and their appraisal is correct.

    It is better to have solved the problems than retaining the office for less than a job well done.
     
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  18. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #98
    Anyone ever see a sentence start with "Who" that was NOT a question, or at the very least did not end with a question mark?

    I'm not certain that 'thwart' means what you think it does in the above sentence.

    BTW, which is it, "Grand" or "Great" when one refers to the current economic meltdown?


    Do you mean "that" or "then"?
     
    Mia, Nov 1, 2010 IP
  19. Breeze Wood

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    Mia, the Associated Press must have had your kind of reasoning in mind when they wrote the above article.
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    The Democrats have a 9,000 voter edge over Republicans in a close election and the GOP feels it is a promising early vote tally.

    Lets hope these kind of numbers hold true nationwide for the Republican advantage.
     
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  20. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    [video=youtube;yMpsttlXye8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMpsttlXye8[/video]
     
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