Not listed yet after long period

Discussion in 'ODP / DMOZ' started by webmasterplace, Oct 13, 2007.

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  1. Qryztufre

    Qryztufre Prominent Member

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    #21
    Oh, and once you are in, don't say anything bad about the directory, or an editor will sit on your site waiting for it to go down for a few minutes, then he's within his right to remove the site. I know, that's what Mr. Jones did to me.
     
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    #22
    If you need a new link, you know where to get one. :D

    Buy DMOZ links from editors.
     
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    #23
    Actually I wandered into the Occult chat category while discussing it with the Q-girl and I killed the only 404 in it. Unfortunately for Q... it is apparently exactly what he did when he arrived, so he has little to complain about.

    See: http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showpost.php?p=4282048&postcount=30
    Given what we NOW know about your actual habits it IS funny the way you posed in here for months. Funny part is you bailed, so you can't go back, and I only went there the one time to check the edits you kept boasting about.

    That part up there about the joy of being an editor is going out and looking for things to include is a real hoot. Tell us another funny story.
     
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    #24
    What a shame, Q spent all that time and energy in ODP to get his site listed and then it gets zapped as a 404.

    I guess if its as good as he says it is, then some editor will perchance find it and list it again if it ever comes back up. You could find someone doing SEO work, Q or offer a bribe, now is your chance to test your theories.

    edit to add
    Or perhaps remember your oft quoted phrase
    "forget to offer it"
     
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  5. Qryztufre

    Qryztufre Prominent Member

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    #25
    The difference between the sites I removed, and the one you removed is that the sites I took out are still down. My removing dead sites (not just 404'ed mind you, but actually defunct) was serving the end user, your removing that 404 was spite as you know too well that it was an active site.

    So again, I'm not bothered that you removed a 404, but rather, you removed a working site that happened to be down for a short while.

    You should be ashamed of yourself, as you are an elder statesmen, and as such a spokesmen for the directory. Your actions here speak volumes as to the ethics of the ODP and only back up much that has been said against them.

    My theories? Sorry, but I never said bribe...as for the paying an SEO, your dear friend Rob agreed that it is within the guidelines to list sites as a professional link builder so long as it benefits the directory and the editor.

    Its within the guidelines of the directory, so there is no saying it's against them...it's there. While I do not agree with it, it is there...if you don't like that fact, there is not much I can do about it, I'm not an editor ;)

    So rather then telling me to test those theories, maybe you should log into the internal forums and see if you can get that part removed from the guidelines to show there is no "paid listing" potential.
     
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    #26
    Test your theories about shortcuts in and come back and tell us how you got on. Though the site might just get 'found' by another editor and re-listed. But we shall have to hope that does not happen and we can see if any of your theories actually 'work'. I hear that there is a good SEO person, someone recomended the other day.....
     
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  7. Qryztufre

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    #27
    What part of the guidelines don't you understand? These are not MY theories, but rather text from the actual guidelines of the site. Do I need to draw you a picture? No go re-read the other thread, and rather then reading my posts, just read Rob's...he says that it's OK. I don't agree, you don't agree...but look, it's there.

    And no, I'll not be an editor again, as I'll not reapply. Look at the way some people treat editors with low edit counts. Who wants to be treated like that?
     
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    #28
    Your theory is that this is a shortcut into the directory, you recommended it and a particular editor to a poster the other day. Now go and test it, then you can come back and say hey look what I just did, you can do it too. Let's see if what you commended to someone else holds water or lets see if its garbage that you are/were spouting.
     
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  9. Qryztufre

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    #29
    OK OK, paying as SEO for a listing is not possible, even though such a thing is well within the guidelines of the ODP :rolleyes: Yes, yes, it's clear that I am wrong and you are right. You won the debate, there are no paid listings even though it's OK by the guidelines.

    Though, it's also clear that you feel it's well within the guidelines to sit on a site till it 404's for a few minutes so it can be removed.

    So yes, yes, your versions of the rules are clear to us all.
     
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    #30
    Q, you recommended someone the other day, go find out if what you told someone else to do works, or perhaps you dare not because you are likely to discover that it doesn't.

    Just go top the guy you commended and say "What will you charge me to get me listed in ODP" and see what reply you get.
     
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    I stressed that it should not and can not look like a bribe, but that hiring an SEO such as the one I gave can result in a listing. The guy IS a link building specialist, and a DMOZ editor. Tell me he does not hold some sway in getting some sites listed. Tell me that his SEO and link building knowledge can't help get a listing within the directory.

    That would be a bribe and you know it. Hiring an SEO/Editor would have to be much more subtle of an affair. But as long as the listing is for the good of both the editor and the directory, then such "work" is ok. Paying him specifically for an ODP listing would result in a "bribe" which is covered in other parts of the guidelines.
     
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    #32
    You won't believe me so why not ask him, put your theory to the test and come back and tell us.
     
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    Smyrl Tomato Republic Staff

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    #33
    Off topic. Thread closed.
     
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