Not a Single Ranking Keyword

Discussion in 'Yahoo' started by theduke56789, Nov 7, 2005.

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    My site http://www.golfhomeconnect.com doesn't rank for a single keyword in yahoo whereas I'm doing pretty well in Google and MSN, at least for a new site.

    Any ideas? The only think I can think of is that my content has very high keyword density for some phrases and thus considered spammy by yahoo?

    I've been following Google positioning and must have neglected Yahoo.
     
    theduke56789, Nov 7, 2005 IP
  2. mdvaldosta

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    Rumor is Yahoo might have a sandbox of some sort too. Im having trouble ranking my new sites on both G and Yahoo.
     
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  3. maldives

    maldives Prominent Member

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    Well your site might be in Yahoo sandbox :D Otherwise the site looks very good.
     
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  4. Web Gazelle

    Web Gazelle Well-Known Member

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    The idea of yahoo having a sandbox is just a myth. I have been able to get sites to rank in Yahoo in 1 month. Keyword density is something to watch as Yahoo seems to like a lower keyword density.
     
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  5. Elee

    Elee Well-Known Member

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    I have had the same problems with most of our sites, written Yahoo about it, but still no relief!!

    Hopefully, in time, Yahoo will come to their senses and see the error of their ways...........

    But, we might all be dead by then.
     
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  6. retSaMbew

    retSaMbew Banned

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    There's been a lot of discussion about Yahoo's giving a priority to sites that have a paid listing in their directory... My current experience makes me think that this theory is very real
     
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  7. Kim Steinhaug

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    To me SERPS in Yahoo seems pretty random, jumping 100 places up and down within a week. Im looking for keywords in Yahoo down to 300 places, and while having top10 position in both Google and MSN for same keywords, Yahoo is not there at all - or Yahoo is suddenly there for some days and Bam! Not there anymore.

    To me it looks like Yahoo is slow in adding things to their index, and when your inside the index results are pretty random. I find alot of really spammy sites inside the Yahoo SERP, so it seems that you need some crazy Black hat SEO to get good listings, which ofcource is a very bad idea as this will penalize you hard in Google and others.

    Please correct me if I'm wrong here, I would love to get some other views on this aswell.

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  8. Web Gazelle

    Web Gazelle Well-Known Member

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    It seems that Yahoo has their own idea of what should be considered spam. I have seen many sites with very low keyword density that somehowe rank in the top. I have to stick with my idea that it is all about links and not tripping the spam filters.
     
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  9. musman

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    maybe the sandbox with yahoo.
     
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  10. JimHo

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    I am new to the forum, but have been looking at Yahoo for awhile.

    It seems like golfhomeconnect's site is about 3 years old, so a sandbox would probably not fit. You do have only 4 pages indexed which may mean a penalty.

    I didn't look too far into golfconnect's site as there are no New England tourney's and I don't golf anyway..But each of the tournament city pages is essentially the same content with a different city. This could cause a duplicate content penalty on Yahoo, and that may even be hurting rankings on Google.

    If that is the case, then you would have to fix that and ask for reinclusion. The fact that you have an outbound links page may hurt your chances for a manual lifting of the penalty. To make your site squeek, you may want to take care of that page before you ask for reinclusion. With only 2 outbounds on it, you may want to put those links on another page. Alternatively, you could add content to the links page about history of the term links as it pertains to golf, and leave them on.


    Jim
     
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  11. clickhandbags

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    I would do two things, if you haven't already. Ping Yahoo daily with your feed and pay the relativley small $$$ for a directory submission. A high keyword density has never affected my rankings with Yahoo. I see 459 link backs to your site, your top competitor has 3,710. You'll be best to follow your competitors lead, look at his/her link-backs. Looks like they also do regular press releases.

    This will help.

    Yahoo help desk has had some positive results for webmasters, a reinclusion request may get the ball rolling;

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  12. theduke56789

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    How exactly is this accomplished? And, do you think I should inquire about reinclusion? Not sure how the site (I) broke Yahoo's TOS.
     
    theduke56789, Nov 12, 2005 IP
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    #13

    I use http://pingomatic.com/

    Re: Yahoo reinclusion;

    I'm quoting other webmasters, who appear to have had results by contacting Yahoo and from the frequency, not by chance. There is a hand penalty that might have been applied in your early stages, but, I'm guessing.

    If any of this works, I will require an index page link back to my Viagra site...:eek: (Bad, joke.)
     
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  14. clickhandbags

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    P.M me and I'll give you a few more tip's.
     
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  15. theduke56789

    theduke56789 Peon

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    As a follow up, I contacted yahoo support to inquire about a possible penalty and they assured me that that was not the case. The support guy then cut and paste some rubbish about yahoo's inclusion of only relevant on topic sites.

    Makes me even more curious why I'm not ranking at all for anything.
     
    theduke56789, Nov 17, 2005 IP
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    If I were you I would externalize any .js, hence bot crawling ur content quicker, just a point to consider.
     
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  17. Web Gazelle

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    Please stop the crazy talk of Yahoo having a sandbox. It's just crazy, nuts and insane!
     
    Web Gazelle, Nov 18, 2005 IP