Mia, There are very few indisputable facts these days and those that are generally tend not to be a topic of conversation worth having... It was you that was referring to how "Personally I like to rely on the facts". Oh and thank you for explaining the difference between a fact and an opinion to me, now everything is a little clearer.. "I merely commented on the FACT that complaining all the time really does not fix anything. It is quite counter productive." This is not a fact but you claim it to be.. Complaining all the time can sometimes fix things, what do you think a protest is if not a mass complaint...? Also, how is it counter productive to complain about something in a forum like this ? At worst you might be regarded as biased, paranoid whatever.
I guess you were too young to remember why Bush Senior went into Kuwait to remove Saddam from those oil fields Mia and really do not understand the dynamics of the 15 year Gulf war that still has not ended. G-tech does not believe that the war is over oil but when Saddam left Kuwait he fired up all the oil wells, I guess he does not understand that either. Mia does not understand that Condi Rice is going to be in the running for President to extend the Bush rule over America that should have ended when Clinton was elected. They got back in by election fraud in 2000 continuing the Nixon legacy that they follow (Watergate). This is why Colin Powell quit, he does not want to be associated with the war mongers, never wanted to go back in again and he was correct, but Cheney and Bush Senior wanted to go back in to try to correct their error of not removing Saddam the first go round. America has paid trillions of dollars in money, lives and lost integrity because of their "so-called leadership". We are hated worldwide and can not stop the impending WW3 that is here. There are some that think Nixon was a Patriot also and do believe that the Bush/Cheney War/Oil business is also Patriotic and that we should continue to support it even to the destruction of America as we once knew it. This is a sad time for America, worse than the Nixon days ever were and these Nixon boys found a way to get back in power and it is up to Americans to put them back where they belong.
Are you going to answer my question or not? You are off on a tangent and are not making any sense. This post is delusional at best. You could have answered my question in about a sentence or two. Here it is again: Please tell me what started the Gulf War. It's a really easy answer if you pay attention to history. I have yet to find anyone that can give the correct answer, however this is the first time I have had someone completely avoid the answer. Now we are into Nixon? Can you answer the question or not? Answer is "yes" or "no".
Gtech, I'm not here to prove anything to you. You keep encouraging people to post facts, yet you haven't posted a single one yourself. You have to admit that controlling the oil in Iraq puts America in a strong position to exert influence on the entire planet? The entire Cheney administration comes from an oil rich background. They know what they're doing! Here, read this for starters. http://www4.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/01/30/iraq.audit/ And then I suggest you do your own research.
Rob, quite the contrarary. I've put forth considerable effort to backup my positions with articles and information from credible sources. I've shown why I've taken my positions and I've provided solid information to back them up. It would be easy enough to take the "no war for oil" position. After all, it takes little effort and with some clever responses, one could wiggle their way out of providing anything to back it up by using bait and switch tactics. It's the popular bandwagon to jump on, I realize. Throw out a "bush/cheney oil ministry" claim and watch the suckers eat it up. I take the hard path, in that I have done my research and the facts show that is not the case. I offer, yet again, that if you believe I my positions are incorrect, challenge them, Individually. You are welcome to refute anything I've posted, by it helps to understand "why" and it helps to refute it with substance...more than just my taking your word for it. How would it be under our control? How does invading Iraq help us get their oil? Are you sure the *entire* family comes from an oil rich background? Here, read this for starters. http://www4.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/01/30/iraq.audit/ And then I suggest you do your own research.[/QUOTE] The article was offers no insight to how we are invading Iraq over oil. My research awaits your challenges.
Mia your the one who is delusional, your posts are mostly rambles with no real points ever other than some of the wild ideas in your mind. Most folks can understand my posts, sorry you and G-tech are having problems, seems that all Bush supporters do. I already answered your question, sorry you can't find that answer. PS: Crazy Rob, these guys are not really worth giving answers to because they just really do not understand the real issues so responding to them is like talking to a brick wall. Mia why don't you tell us why the Gulf war was started other than the answer I already gave you in the first sentence of the post you quoted?
I'm not having any problems! I'm enjoying watching you and rob both avoid any commentary what-so-ever. I've especially enjoyed you, Anthony! You've wasted 10 pages in this post avoiding standing behind your moonbat positions. That's not a problem for me, that's a success! You've yet to refute any of my positions with any facts and I'm very flattered! Mia, I think you are doing a great job. Anthony works hard to avoid answering any questions or backing up his positions. What he does instead, is try to turn the tables around and ask questions, rather than participate in an equal debate. And when he cannot defend them, he resorts to "I've warned you about going off topic" or "everyone already knows xyz and you are a nutcase." Anything he can do, to avoid showing any evidence that Bush/Cheney are not part of his made up oil fantasy, etc. The patterns are predictable and quite refreshing to watch! Anthony, excellent job avoiding commentary! You are the master of propaganda and doing nothing to back it up!
Too bad for you that the forum membership decides who the nuts are around here G-tech and you got a bullet next to your name man. You know that old song by Lynyrd Skynyrd, "Gimme back my Bullets", that was a song about how Ronnie Van Zant wanted bullets next to his songs again because that meant they were moving up the charts quickly when that Icon was used on the charts. I hope you can understand the above G-tech but I have my doubts.
I understand a threat when I see one. I understand you've made another post without backing up your positions. Thanks for another laugh!
WOW, you just confirmed what I said in my last post..... What happened to your "no war for oil thread" G-tech? We want you to be on topic here, remember
I am, a party for me is getting off work and getting back online. This is fun stuff hu?? Well, I am drinking some St. Pauli Girl, smoking Basic Full Flavors, listening to some Jimi Hendrix live and gona crap out in about an hour. If that is the good life then someone please send me a care package man
What "wild ideas"? I think you have me confused with your alter ego. No, you did not. I'll give you another shot. Here I have condensed the question. "What started the Gulf War?" What an arrogant statement. You're not giving anyone any "answers". You are making statements, and others are questioning your statments. You refuse to answer any question anyone else has unless they agree with you. They call that .. well, I think I already covered what that is. What answer? You never gave me an answer. You rambled on throwing a fit about other things and people that have nothing to do with the question I asked. I must have missed that one. I honestly did not see an answer from you. Give it another shot.
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Mia for a guy with long winded posts you don't really say much, plus you really have no points to make, just rambles. Study this search and maybe you will understand, because you really do not have any knowledge of the subject matter and do need to conduct some research before you post. http://vivisimo.com/search?v%3Asources=Web&query=Gulf+War+Kuwait+Saddam&x=49&y=22 Come back when you have some understanding, maybe G-tech could actually understand some of the information in the above search also since he does not think that the Gulf war was and is over oil. Get real guys and quit the silly posts.
Am I too assume this was your answer? Try showing others a little respect, and you might find others will return that courtesy to you as well. I'm certainly old enough to have served. Too young? What is that supposed to mean? I'll give you one more try. I asked what started the war. You really have no idea do you? Here is a hint: Why did Saddam invade Kuwait? The answer to that, will give you the answer to my original question.
Look, I know you act like a 4 year old purposely just to irritate people so that an argument can continue. Some people get off on that. I can respect that. But what would certainly help is if you could stop insulting people. You're really not a very nice person. Try being a little less negative and less insulting and people may actually respect what you say. I know I would. Peace-
A 4 year old is exactly what you act like, I give you an answer then you ask the same question again and claim I did not give you an answer to your question. Study this and maybe you will actually understand the issue. http://www.indepthinfo.com/iraq/index.shtml I know that you have the secret answer that no one else has, so when you are ready to tell all of us why the Gulf war was started, please give us this mystery of the ages.