Mia incorrect, I was talking about the current war in Iraq that Colin Powell did advise against, not the one in 91. He as Secretary of State did not want to go in, but wanted to work with the UN and negotiate diplomatically and he was correct and that is why he resigned. He nor his son wants an association with the Bush Foundation any longer, his son resigned as FCC Chairman also. Can you show me where in the first Gulf war that he did not want to invade after Saddam took the oil fields in the early 90's? Do you know what position he was in then? What was his title at that time?
Sure that may have been what you meant, but the fact remains that the only time he advised against it was in 91. [font=arial,sans-serif] Again, "[/font][font=arial,sans-serif]I love when present news is ill-concieved by sound bites and blipverts from the past." I know it seems like fact, but that is because his statements from the past have been used to describe his opinions of the present. Dude, with all due respect, you are off your rocker. Most SOS's resign after 4 years. Hell, the entire admin usually changes for serveral reasons. Many of the reasons are, people just want to move on. Like any job, sometimes you find that you can advance further if you just move on. I've met and talked with the FCC Chair, and I can tell you that his reasons for moving on have nothing to do with the descisions of the Bush admin. Chairman Powell has been around since the Clinton admin, and he has put in his time. Its time to move on. I see him getting a nice cushy multi-figure job at some tech company or telco/net related company. You can throw assumptions around all day, but just because you say it, does not mean it's truth. Sure, using your own links you provided earlier in this thread you will find the answer you are looking for. You asked me to look at them; I did. Now go and actually do the same. General Collin Powell was Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff during the Gulf War. He was a close advisor to President Bush and an architect of the allied victory over Saddam Hussein's Iraq. Happy? I'm off to the Y. Have a nice afternoon..
You just have proven that you do not know what you are talking about, no need for me to post an answer, you just informed us of your knowledge on issues. http://www.tampatrib.com/News/MGB019G952E.html http://vivisimo.com/search?query=Colin+Powell+Argued+Against+Iraq+Invasion&v%3Asources=Web&x=24&y=9 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Members, read this: http://www.mideastnews.com/sad0301.html It was the no fly zone- a Five years old point of friction - that gave the new Bush administration an excuse to, noisily, declare a new policy hoping to scare Saddam off. American aircraft hit Iraqi radar installations on the outskirts of the capital Baghdad - which is outside the no-fly-zone, just one week before a grand tour of America's Middle Eastern allied nations by secretary of Sate Colin Powell - another one who failed to unseat Saddam in his previous military role as the boss of the biggest army in the world, a coalition of 28 nations when it waged war against Saddam. Now re-incarnated as the world's top diplomat, Mr Powell is trying a smarter ways of getting rid of the old foe. Loud whispers from the corridors of power in Washington suggest, to the annoyance of Mr Powell, that old and ailing vice president Dick Cheney, who was defence secretary in the administration of Bush the father, hoping to iron-out the unfinished business of 1991. He was behind the air-raid, although British Prime Minister Tony Blair wanted to take the credit for devising them. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Don't pay attention to false propaganda provided by Mia and G-tech. http://vivisimo.com/search?query=Powell+against+Iraq+invasion&v%3Asources=Web&x=42&y=17
Yeah, there is no need for you to post an answer, but there is obviously a need to edit your post some time later... Funny. Interesting. Last I remember we live in a free country were the sharing of ideas and conversation is paramount to our way of life, yet you ask others not to listen to someone who has an opinion different from your own. That is a very closed minded way of thinking. No one is going to respect your opinions when you continue to insult other people. In any event I have not spread "propaganda" as you call it. I have simply shared in a conversation and apparently have a view point that is different from your own. For some reason that is threatening to you. You might want to edit your post again and quote some of the information I have detailed for you in the past in this thread all of which comes from links, you my friend provided. I understand it is easier to be hateful and insult others when you have nothing nice to say. However, you should try giving others a modicum of respect once and a while. You might be surprised and find your little box turns from red to green.
Yeah OK, go look at some of your own posts, "I am off my rocker" seems to be one of your statements. Look at G-tech and his silly posts, "I have moonbat positions", you guys would be alright as long as you actually had truth to post. Posting falsehoods and trying to debate upon them is not so nice either, why enter the debate with false statements then try to get folks to believe them? That is what makes me mad, when folks step up and try to establish lies as facts. I have nothing against you and G-tech except the fact that you support American policies that are flawed, if the government is wrong, like they have been in this war since Bush Senior let Saddam live in the first Gulf war then they should be held accountable for it. Go explain your support for Bush to young men that went to fight and got their legs blown off or one of their mothers. Explain it to families that lost their homes in bombings in the latest war because of failed leadership in our government. You can only cover up the shit so long before it comes back and stinks again, we need new innovative leadership in this country and Cheney and Bush have not been the answer and it is time Americans wake up to this FACT.
Mia, I think that folks could see my post very clear but thank you for reposting it. Maybe one day you will be angry when your Republican friends get the draft back soon and send your son into an unjust war. Things like that have a way of happening somehow, now don't they MIA Hell you are safe, why worry about others that are having their lives destroyed, as long as you have food and a warm room to sleep in you could not care less, right Mia?
I agree. When people post things like: http://www.heritage.org/Research/MiddleEast/wm217.cfm The list goes on and on... It almost appears as if Anthony loves his country Accusing Bush/Cheney of going after oil in Iraq, but disregarding the real oil thieves, the United Nations and corrupt countries that were bought out. I agree Anthony, people should not be posting lies like these without facts to back them up.
Thanks for reposting things that members have freely available to them G-tech, I don't know what the forum would do without you. Maybe save some disk space on the server Also thanks for reposting the same old UN food for oil crap that is your blockbuster answer to every question about the war. Man you are creative and the membership should be thankful you are here to tell us the same thing everyday
Plenty of people are angry! I know I am. If you have Comcast on-demand cable, I recommend you watch "Uncovered- The War on Iraq" http://www.truthuncovered.com/ It's a series of interviews w/ EX-CIA analysts and state department officials. It's very interesting.
Now we are getting down to the real truth folks, G-tech has just confirmed with his last post what I have been telling everyone, that he is a Republican propagandist. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Heritage+foundation+republican+propaganda&btnG=Google+Search Look at the listings in the above search and you will see this fact for yourselves and why he uses the Heritage Foundation a Republican suck ass propaganda agency for his source of news. Again, G-tech for your information, Bush Senior did leave Saddam in power, wake up man, you just continue to paint yourself into a corner and do a disservice to your Republican masters.
We would have to be Democrat to be angry about bringing back the Draft. The democracts are the only ones with bills to bring back the draft: http://www.factcheck.org/article200.html John Kerry had a plan for a draft, but tried to erase it from his site: http://www.captainsquartersblog.com/mt/archives/002647.php
You are the biggest joke since Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson G-tech, no one in their right mind will believe a word of your BS
If you put as much effort towards debating the facts and providing information to back up your claims, as you did in calling me names, we might get somewhere! I don't mind the name calling. When you choose to call me names instead of standing behind your false claims, it sends a clear message.
The main fact that I have is that you are a bias Republican propagandist and the members are now completely aware of it and your tainted posts. Your "so called facts" are proven Republican propaganda as you have a list of websites that are "Republican Propaganda Approved" that you pull your "facts" from, we all understand your problems G-tech.