noob help needed please

Discussion in 'Link Development' started by Neurophase, Jun 9, 2005.

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    Hi guys,

    My site has been going for about ten days now and i'm getting about 8 people a day to it. I think i've done quite well with submitting it to directories and swapping links e.t.c.. - i had a marothon session yesterday of submitting it to keyword related directories- anyway, i was just wondering how long it usually takes to start seeing the results from this kind of work. Are we talking weeks or months?


    Any anecdotal stories would be much appreciated.

    Thanks

    James
     
    Neurophase, Jun 9, 2005 IP
  2. e10

    e10 Well-Known Member

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    Hey Neurophase,

    First thing you need to learn is NOT to double your posts. :)

    I´d say 8 unique visitors a day in 10 days is good ... in fact I´d go so far as to say it was excellent.

    Are you sure that these 8 are not simply the admin of the directories checking the site out? Have you run any advertising anywhere? Where do you stand with the sandbox of your new site, what are the positions in MSN and Yahoo. How competitive is the topic of the site?
     
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  3. Neurophase

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    To be more precise i only started adsense 10 days ago, the site has been sitting there with basic se submissions for a couple of months.
    Forgive my ignorance, but what is a sandbox?
     
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    Essentially, the sandbox seems to be the period between a new site being created, and it starting to list in search engine results, primarily Google. Google appears to wait several months to ensure that a site is going to stay around a while before listing it.
     
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    ger Peon

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    From my experience, MSN Search is indexing sites pretty fast. I launched two sites that got indexed by MSN in a couple of days. Next is Yahoo, which takes longer. And Google waits the most. After months my sites got listed in Google with only some hundreds of pages.
     
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    With regards to Yahoo, some people are having problems getting their sites pages indexed
     
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    Just curious..what are the top three things to do to get listen in msn quickly?


    sedriskill
     
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  8. ger

    ger Peon

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    Yes. For me it took about 6 month. I launched the site somewhere in December and Yahoo started to index it only at the beginning of June. Now it got to 250,000 indexed pages and it is adding about 10,000-20,000 of pages daily. I hope it keeps doing this for a while. :)
     
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    ger Peon

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    I can tell you what I did. I wanted to launch a new site "A". I already had a site "B" that was indexed by MSN. So I placed on *every* page of site "B" a link towards a page on site "A". The links towards site "A" should be different, don't place all the links towards one single page.

    What I think is that MSN scans the Internet on a daily basis. And it goes to site "B", finds the new links towards site "A" and there you go.

    The problem is how to get your first site indexed in MSN. After you have one site, you can use it to add more sites. If you already have such a site, then it's simple for you. If not, then try to get as many external links as possible towards your site.
     
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    The best way to generate traffic from the "free" SE's is by developing great content pages that convey value to your visitors. Each page should focus on a single specific keyword that belongs to the theme of your niche site.

    Getting traffic from the SE's will take a few months, so it's a good idea to get some quality in-bound links to your site. How to you get them?

    +Major directories: Yahoo (in my opinion too expensive for a small biz), DMOZ & Zeal

    +2nd tier directories: JoeAnt, sevenseek, business.com, bluefind....

    +Niche Directories

    +Do some link exchanges with other webmasters (don't spend too much time on it, time is better spent building content). When you choose your link partners look for the following criteria: great content for your visitors, Alexa traffic ranking & Google PR

    Building in-pointing links won't really generate lots of traffic, the idea is:

    +To score some important off-page criteria points with the SE's (this gives
    you a slight boost in your ranking)

    +To get spidered by SE's that don't accept site submissions

    +To get the traffic avalanche started

    As I said, it's a good idea to get a few quality in-bound links, but don't get carried away with this exercise.
     
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    Depends on how hard you work! 1-3 months atleast
     
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    myself im dont think (the sandbox)
    I think google has some prossess that google goes with i have had sites not have a sandbox efffect and some have.
    so i tihnk they do some tests but dont really know.
     
    linksharp, Jun 20, 2005 IP