No on page optimization but still seeking 1 rank

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by neeshu, Nov 4, 2009.

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    There is so much problem with clients and the new company I joined now they have a client which doesn't wish to change the title or wants sef his pages are completely irrelevant to the keywords he wishes to see in google search but he wants rankings :p now how do I do that Australian clients are headaches
     
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  2. banless

    banless Peon

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    You need to explain that for the most part you can not help them rank if you are not allowed to do what it takes to get them there. Hopefully you have a no refund policy in play, other wise you are just giving out free links. If they still refuse then simply tell them that there is nothing you can do for them and then just move on to the next client. No sense in beating a dead horse.
     
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  3. rashida

    rashida Active Member

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    By placing the targeted keywords in the title only we can improve the google keyword rankings by doing the effective off-page optimization.
     
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    In my opinion; as with any service sector, including SEO you need to do as the client requests. If they don't want any on-page optimization then continue to do your best with off-page optimization. I'll tell you right now plenty of sites rank #1 for plenty of keywords with little till null on-page optimization; it's very possible to achieve rankings without on-page optimization. ANY seo professional should understand this and be prepared to deal with situations like this and learn to either...

    A) Weed them out prior to accepting a client via proper questions and answers during initial interview.

    B) Have a game plan to deal with clients whos website will not be possible to make on-page changes.

    If you can't do the job you were paid for you SHOULD refund there money; end of story. You should of known prior to taking the job that on-page optimization wasn't possible. The first question I always ask is if they understand and agree to on-page changes and recommendations.


    Wow, it's comments like this that give SEO professionals and companies a real bad name....
     
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    poojarai27 Peon

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    Tell him, there are some parameter define for search engine optimization process and if we work according to that alignment, then definitely get good ranking on top search engines, website on page work is the most important factor for any website and if he want his website on top position on competitive keywords, then he have to work according to the SE alignment and parameters
     
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    Really, now it's the most important factor? Stop the link building presses! :rolleyes:
     
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    Hi there,
    You simply say without ON page optimization it is not possible, or try for featured link by paying some amount but it would be for a few time period and again after some time it's SERP will fall down.
    All the best
     
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    that's not possible without on page you need done it....
     
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    and why is it "not possible"?
     
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    I have read many Australian companies wanted to join the SEO trends in their sites yet the common comment of SEO specialist is the on page optimization. They do not want to edit their content on their websites. Then they expect to much. That will be very difficult in SEO part
     
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    Tell them it will cost them much more. :D It's not impossible, but it will take a lot more effort.
     
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    Very painful.

    For such kind of websites, I prefer building link on various pages with the keyword as anchor text.

    However this will take a lot of time to accomplish your goal.
     
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    Yeah. It is really irritating situation. But As a SEO expert it is our duty to explain client about the importance of onpage optimization. Try to convince him. Its really up to your talent.
     
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  14. neeshu

    neeshu Well-Known Member

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    its not possible to rank in top 10 atleast in travel niche until you have good on page optimizations I am not sure what my comp has promised the clients only my superiors tell me to improve the rankings :p
     
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    If it's a competitive keyword and the website content is poor then you really don't stand much chance of getting good results with just off-site optimisation.
    You'll have to explain to them that you'll only have half the tools to do the job and that even if you do manage to get their site good rankings, with the frequent changes in algorithm leaning towards quality content rather than backlinks, it'll be difficult to maintain a good position against competitors without on-page optimisation.
     
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    Before you agree to any SEO contract, both parties should be made aware of what they expect of each other. If you haven't made this clear to the client at the outset, this is your problem and you need to deal with it. If this was made clear then you should remind them about what they agreed to before the project started.

    If there's no on-page relevancy at all for those keywords, it's going to be a difficult task. So the best thing to do is explain this to the client and either get them to agree with this or refund them and move on.
     
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    If You don't want to change in Meta Tags as per your client talk then you can offer him that we can purchase high page rank link for his website to get ranking in major search engine ranking such as Google, Yahoo and MSN.
     
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    i think is a keyword in seo or meta tags
     
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    if client dose not want to change website title so change in content or make hide content in website other wise put title tags or ALT otherwise optimize inner page
     
    seo555, Mar 1, 2010 IP