No more PR???

Discussion in 'Google' started by a3196, Dec 20, 2004.

  1. #1
    I heard that after next pr update, google won't give much weight on pagerank...
    Is this true??
    If so, On which do I have to focus to get better SERP??

    Thanks...
     
    a3196, Dec 20, 2004 IP
  2. szy

    szy Peon

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    #2
    No. Google doesn't care too much about PR since a few months. Or more.

    Get more backlinks.

    And read forum's archives.

    Szy.
     
    szy, Dec 20, 2004 IP
  3. a3196

    a3196 Well-Known Member

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    #3
    Thanks for your advice....

    I have one more question....

    What is anchor text???

    Is it like something you guys have on your signature???
     
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  4. szy

    szy Peon

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    #4
    Anchor is a linked text.

    Anchor in my signature is 'Pozycjonowanie i optymalizacja'.

    Szy.
     
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  5. T0PS3O

    T0PS3O Feel Good PLC

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    #5
    Anchor text is what you click on. It's the actual words in the link.
     
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  6. Lever

    Lever Deep Thought

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    ...or in other words
    <a href="http://www.yourdomain.com">Anchor Text</a>
    Code (markup):
     
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  7. a3196

    a3196 Well-Known Member

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    #7
    Thanks...

    and Can text link have description???
     
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  8. Lever

    Lever Deep Thought

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    #8
    You can modify your tag to use the title attribute as in
    <a href="http://www.yourdomain.com" title="description here">Anchor Text</a>
    Code (markup):
    It's valid HTML, I know it acts as a "tool tip" in FireFox being good for accessibility... but as for its SEO qualities... I don't know :)
     
    Lever, Dec 20, 2004 IP
  9. minstrel

    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    #9
    What do you base that conclusion on? Google doesn't update the public reports/displays of PR at all frequently any more but that doesn't mean PR has been devalued in the ranking algorithm.

    If PR doesn't matter, how would doing this help SE rankings?
     
    minstrel, Dec 20, 2004 IP
  10. SEbasic

    SEbasic Peon

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    #10
    Agreed 100%
    By looking at anchor text, rather than the PR weight associated with the links.
     
    SEbasic, Dec 20, 2004 IP
  11. WilliamC

    WilliamC Well-Known Member

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    #11
    The anchor text boost is not that reliant on PR as far as I have seen. Links will always help.
     
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  12. minstrel

    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    Good point.
     
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  13. eddie

    eddie snowrider

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    #13
    If Pr has lost importance and only the number of links is important in G than that should be easy to test. If some one had only a few high pr links they should have plumeted and someone with a high number of low pr links should have headed for the top.
     
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  14. yfs1

    yfs1 User Title Not Found

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    #14
    I think the question has been answered well in previous posts but I will reiterate that it isn't like PR is some tangible one factor thing that can be purchased and traded etc. It is made up of a variety of things and the end result of the little bar or number is merely an indicator.

    Google uses "PR" still because Google still uses the elements that make up PR. You can certainly argue the uselessness of the PR indicator but the basis is still there. Links still help and links from more "important" sites help even more. Yes, the specifics change from time to time but the general idea still holds true.

    Until natural language is used, PR will still be "used" by Google. A newbie mistake however is to worship the bar rather than getting dug in and hitting the basics that still get a site ranked.
     
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  15. Catfish

    Catfish Peon

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    #15
    Page Rank is alive and well bro. I wonder how many highly competitive top 5 rankings people have who dimish the effect of page rank. I betcha that if you are trying to crack the top 10 for "las vegas hotels" you can have all the links you want from PR3 and less sites, and you will never get to the top 10.

    Having said that, I believe that the page rank effect is easier to see in the SERPS when analyzing backlinks that are relevant or "topic sensitive".
     
    Catfish, Dec 20, 2004 IP
  16. HHI Golf Guy

    HHI Golf Guy Guest

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    Well, Google still seems to think that PR has some validity. Here's a snippet of an email that I received from G when I questioned some of their SERP's:

    "As you may know, our automated PageRank algorithm lies at the heart of
    our technology. PageRank takes into account not only the content on the page in question, but also the quality and anchor text of the links that
    point to that page."

    Sounds like PR is here to stay in one form or another.
     
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  17. a3196

    a3196 Well-Known Member

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    Good point!
     
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  18. Catfish

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    #18
    You don't create a patent that powers a billion dollar company and then treat it like a fad. No one can duplicate the page rank algo and until something WAY better comes along that makes people really switch (as opposed to the flavor of the month hype that MSN and Yahoo are putting out), page rank isn't going anywhere. Although, I would say that there have definately been modifications to the original patent (see Hilltop, TSPR, etc).
     
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    musiclover Well-Known Member

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    #19
    Does using TITLE tags help in SEO.

    No Body Answered this... :confused:
     
    musiclover, Dec 20, 2004 IP
  20. Design1

    Design1 Active Member

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    #20

    Yes, yes, and furthermore.. YES! :D
     
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