No more google page rank!!!!Backlinks wont count soon!!!!

Discussion in 'Google' started by moneybrown, Jan 21, 2009.

  1. #1
    Im sure everyone heard or read about this and maybe read this exact article.
    It sucks because I just got a fucking page rank!! WTF.

    Those expecting a knock-down, drag-out brawl at the "Black Hat/White Hat" session at SES Chicago may have left a bit disappointed. It looked like the sparks could fly, with Dave Naylor, director of search marketing at Bronco, and Todd Friesen, VP of search at Position Technologies there representing the black hat side, and Eric Enge, president of Stone Temple Consulting and Doug Heil, owner of ihelpyou there defending the white hat side.

    But, as Friesen so eloquently said, "As it turns out, Doug's actually a nice guy."

    So despite the lack of violence, the session turned out to be an hour-long discussion of techniques that will or will not get you banned by Google, the ethical considerations of search marketing, and a few black-hat tips thrown in for good measure.

    Much of the discussion centered on buying links for SEO purposes, which is frowned upon by Google. Naylor and Friesen both said buying links should be allowed, noting that paid links are still relevant, since they bring a user to the page they promise.

    "If a user clicks on a link that says 'Buy Viagra', they're going to land on a page that's selling Viagra," Naylor said.

    The difference is that Google sees a bought link as an "unnatural" link, since payment has entered the picture. But that argument gets muddied when it comes to bartered links, or other kinds of non-monetary rewards given in exchange for links.

    To be safe, Enge says, "Google makes the rules. If we want to have a stable business for the long term, we have to follow them."

    The paid links debate is muddied further by the issue of links from trade organizations, which usually charge a membership fee. Enge pointed out that the reason those are OK in Google's eyes is that there is some kind of review process involved, as there is with a quality directory listing like Yahoo or Best of the Web.

    In Heil's view, it's a matter of authority. Sites that have earned the authority to vouch for a business, or sponsor an event, for example, should be allowed to do so with a link. The caveat, of course, is that they don't abuse that authority and start linking out without any kind of quality oversight.

    Naylor outlined one of his favorite white hat methods of getting links: press releases. When you issue a press release with links in the copy, you will often get people that reprint the release on their site with the links intact. He also recommends getting your site's content into Google News.

    Everyone on the panel agreed that dropping the PageRank meter from the Google Toolbar would be a good idea to help curb buying and selling of links for SEO value, and it appears that Google is headed in that direction. "It's a beast they never should have unleashed," Naylor said. It would also help if Google's algorithm stopped relying so heavily on links as a measure of a site's quality, they said.

    Posted by Kevin Newcomb at December 11, 2008 3:13 PM

    SOURCE:
    http://blog.searchenginewatch.com/blog/081211-151309
     
    moneybrown, Jan 21, 2009 IP
  2. iWrite

    iWrite Peon

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    #2
    I ask you to please read the article before posting a title like that next time. Um, basically, the panel at the conference recommended Google to remove the PageRank display from their toolbar. Nowhere in there does it say Google obliged. Nowhere in the article does it state that Google will get rid of PR, much less remove that aspect from the toolbar.
     
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  3. malcolm1

    malcolm1 Prominent Member

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    heheheh pretty much took the words out my mouth :D

    laterz
    malcolm
     
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  4. moneybrown

    moneybrown Peon

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  5. malcolm1

    malcolm1 Prominent Member

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    #5
    No need to google that, as we have another thread with the video stating
    how it will be changing and how it might throw the seo world of its feet for
    a month or two till its eventually manipulated. the video is here

    laterz
    malcolm
     
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    Thanks for the info...
     
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  7. Bohol

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    #7
    PR has been the cornerstone of Google's search operation. I don't think the Big G will remove it anytime soon. They might innovate PR algorithm but not abandon it altogether.
     
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  8. spice

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    2012 is not far. why worry?
     
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    #9
    Frankly speaking, I don't beleive a single word.
    There have always been people writing articles to make panic, nothing more.
    Chill out.
     
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    #10
    If you site has quality content that is relevant to your keywords then page rank is only a small percentage of how your site ranks as far as search results anyway.
     
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  11. moneybrown

    moneybrown Peon

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    #11
    im chill.
    honestly dont care if it goes or not. My two sites just got ranked so im excited about that but it will still be time before traffic comes based on my page rank so pr is no excitement to me...only now that my sites are page ranked. I just wanted to post this to see some opinions. I like reading
     
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    #12
    If they are planning to do a new algo, then there will be new method to do SEO on your websites.
     
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    topcash Peon Affiliate Manager

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    #13
    good read, google should have made the change a long time ago.
     
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  14. 00teen

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    What in 2012??? Google stop this?
     
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    #15
    Is it not more basic? Create a great web site that visitors love, brab the great link now and then and you are all good....buy links and do some shady practices you may get banned...


    The linking algo stirs such a mess, do what is best for your site and reap the rewards, no matter how bent they sometimes get from this stuff..
     
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    Mecal Peon

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    #16
    certain prophets predict that the world will end in 2012.
     
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    Oh, good news, ehm sorry God news ;)

    But Google will continue in space, don't worry.
     
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    #18
    Google never said they will remove PR from toolbar.
     
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    #19
    Google will run into problems one day, I am sure Gates is looking deep into it
     
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    #20
    The only thing he's looking into is a nice beach house.
     
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