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Discussion in 'Directories' started by JohnScott, May 18, 2007.

  1. malcolm1

    malcolm1 Prominent Member

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    #81
    hehehheheh i dont know either but i know its bad :p
    SEMrush
     
    malcolm1, May 19, 2007 IP
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    an0n Prominent Member

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    #82
    Quick Buck Crew

    Those 1,000 directories that spring up everyday talking about 'heavily promoting', and 'offering cheap submission' to only disappear in 3 days.

    The type of people who don't back up, and claim their dog ate their Server, instead of getting solid Web Hosting

    You know, the bottom dwelling 'gimme gimme gimme for free' people that dwell around this place.

    oh, np on the plug. it's all in good faith. ;)
     
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  3. malcolm1

    malcolm1 Prominent Member

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    #83
    ahhhhhhhhh so why didnt you tell me that :eek: ... heheheheh now i feel like...

    Dont you dare :p would you have explained to me :rolleyes:
     
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    ! Ask ! Peon

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    #84
    Quick Buck Crew - People that are on the business just to get the quick buck and run..
     
    ! Ask !, May 19, 2007 IP
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    JohnScott Notable Member

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    #85
    LOL. Thanks for the heads up, I felt so out-of the loop. :)
     
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    ! Ask ! Peon

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    #86
    Well it’s An0n trademark it was the first to start using it… and probably will go to Wikipedia soon :)

    We also have some raging bunnies here to attack the QBC :)

    [​IMG]
     
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    ! Ask ! Peon

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    #87
    Back to the thread main subject.

    My model, regular listings are permanent, but get thrown to deeper inside levels as directory grows and more detailed sub-categories get created.

    Featured listings annual payment get upper category and better traffic exposure.
     
    ! Ask !, May 19, 2007 IP
  8. Blogmaster

    Blogmaster Blood Type Dating Affiliate Manager

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    #88
    IMHO that is an excellent way to go about it, since featured listings really are what the Google Adwords ads are on Google.
     
    Blogmaster, May 19, 2007 IP
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    ccoonen Well-Known Member

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    #89
    Yearly are kinda silly for standard listings - but when it comes to selling SiteWide's, its a must! You can't have an ever growing list of sitewides.
     
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    Blogmaster Blood Type Dating Affiliate Manager

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    The key is that a website needs to service another purpose than just advertising space. ;)
     
    Blogmaster, May 19, 2007 IP
  11. moneymakingguru

    moneymakingguru Well-Known Member

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    #91
    Good point!! That is a good way of putting it.. So it should be fine to tell my existing clients that next month onwards all perm featured link reviews are becoming yearly.

     
    moneymakingguru, May 19, 2007 IP
  12. moneymakingguru

    moneymakingguru Well-Known Member

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    #92
    I just learnt of that from Rob a few days ago and now it just keeps popping out everyway i go now... hmmm... Rob, is this a common slang or you made this up?? I wonder who invented this... Gonna wikipedia for it now.

    edited:8.02am
    Just googled it and found that CReed's blog is ranked number 1 for the exact phrase for Quick Buck Crew


     
    moneymakingguru, May 19, 2007 IP
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    jl255 Well-Known Member

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    #93
    i agree to a certain extent. But with this principle in mind, there shld be a limited number of featured listings allowed on a page, which unfortunately, is NOT what i'm seeing on some directories. I've seen pages where its NOTHING but featured listings, which kinda defeats the purpose :rolleyes:
     
    jl255, May 20, 2007 IP
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    #94
    are you saying about Alive?

    But the directory is worth paying as it would probably send you more visitors!
     
    Freewebspace, May 21, 2007 IP
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    #95
    In this regard, to a certain extent i agree with John and would like to put it a little differently.

    This is what i feel

    The purpose of any internet directory is to build a strong resource, the business model actually build from there on. I believe content is king and if you are managing a web directory in true spirit, you would see the resource index grow and now slump with deleted links.

    Building your resource index would infact benefit a directory with more trageted traffic with the traffic benefit moving on to the listed links.

    This is one areas where even the best directory owners are defaulting, i am not ashamed to admit that the only value that i am giving the links in my directory is the SERP advantage.

    But things would be very different with my premium paid permanent link directory **COMING SOON

    A annual payment for a regular listing is more about selling SERPs value and not building on a resources, defaulting the very purpose of a web directory.

    I am all for a permanent listing and would not submit a site for a annual charge unless the directory guarantees me enough exposure.

    p.s.Most premium paid directories are running with empty / semi-empty categories and its a tearful sight to see or do they agree that they are selling SERP value and not the TARGETED EXPOSURE that they promise.

    I am lost :p

    Lets not brag about alexa, we all know how it is coming
     
    kiviniar, May 21, 2007 IP
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    Velocity Well-Known Member

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    #96
    I agree with you. Very well said!
     
    Velocity, May 21, 2007 IP
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    #97
    this is a great thread really.I usually bypass the pay by the year directories,even though some are really top notch sites,if anything for the fact i dont want a surprise "bill" for listings in a year that i may have forgot about.I have all my listings permanent..featured and regular..although i may eventually make my featured links on a yearly basis
     
    templates, May 21, 2007 IP
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    #98
    directory business OR link-leasing business. Great Point. Really just WOW!

    I too think so. The core meaning/existence of directory does not allows annual fee or something like that. Also, I don't think that original directory meaning/existence allow even paid directory. frankly.

    _________________ A Bit Off Topic _______________-
    I really like to see "JohnScott" at DP. This is first time I am seeing you here. I am just feeling something good. Do you rem me?? I am Mr_Kumar at v7n forums.

    :smile.
     
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    I knew Shawn before DP forums existed - not really a stranger here. :)
     
    JohnScott, May 22, 2007 IP
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    adnan Peon

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    #100
    Well John

    Most of the directories which you are talking about are the 'directory in the box' type deals.

    Purchase a script for $xx, load it up and boom.


    And when things are slow, ditch it. If things look good, start a new directory. Maybe have a full array of them.

    Quality directories, which offer different services won't settle for the 1 time fee deal.


    Also, what happens when your directory is 10 years old. That 1st listing in the Business section which paid $10 is getting hundreds of hits a day and you have to list it because its a 1 time fee.

    What if a site started out as a jewelry shop but now shows porn videos.

    Ok, you'll catch it but when? You're only charging a 1 time fee, and can't afford to pay editors to continually monitor your site.

    Software bug or you need some changes done? You can't do it cause ur underfunded.

    I mean if you really, really want to run a directory, it costs big money and you have to figure out a way to offset those costs.

    Botw which you mentioned gets around 250,000 visitors a month. You don't get that far by charging a 1 time fee.



    take care
     
    adnan, May 22, 2007 IP