No buyer protection if the dispute is related to earning and traffic

Paypal did NOT reverse the the transaction for my dispute which was related to revenue and traffic claim. I made the payment through paypal and site was not making any revenue as the seller claimed. looks like, he posted fake screenshot. Paypal clearly said, revenue claim and traffic claim comes under services, No buyer protection for that.

Please let me know how can i escalate such disputes?

When i asked the seller to verify the income, he said that he does not want to publicly disclose that.
and also i asked him to share his desktop to verify the earning, he said, that is not allowed as per adsense TOS.

He had one positive review in flippa, so i bought the site. He transferred the domain and site. Then, vanished. No response to mail or messages in flippa.

If the seller is not willing to verify the income, I guess, we should be careful.

 

You got scammed.

Happens dozens of times per day unfortunately.

Mind sharing the link to the sale? Maybe we can all learn something.

 

I do not want to reveal it now, as i have charge backed with my credit card company. If he accept, i have to transfer the domain and site.

 

Wait a second, in July Paypal updated their ToS and expanded buyer protection to include services as well. There are tons of scams on Flippa but I thought this wasn't possible anymore through Paypal. Are you sure they said that was the actual reason why you couldn't get a refund through paypal?

 

yes, paypal said like that

 

You was buying the domain and the website so you got it.
If you buy a car and the owner says its perfect and after two days the engine is not working anymore what will you do?
Things happends, just go for escrow and try it for 2-3 days.

 

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paypal does not cover digital services...
If you escalate your claim, then you will get
an automatic notice saying the same thing...
you can certainly file a dispute with your credit card, and if
you do that, then paypal has every right to ban or limit your account...
you did not do your homework, even though the obvious signs
clearly told you to walk away, but you purchased anyway....

I am not saying that paypal will ban or limit your account, but why
would they want a buyer going above their head filing disputes...
your credit card has no obligations to honor your claim either, however
I suspect that most will since you are their client....

If you win your dispute with your credit card and end up
losing your paypal account, then what have you really won?

You can also risk getting your flippa account banned too...
I am sure they will not appreciate a dispute which will most
likely reverse whatever fee they were to get out of the deal...

As long as flippa is making money, then there is no incentive
to clean up anything. Flippa did not screw you, paypal did not
screw you, nor did your credit card; You seen the red flags
waving in your face, and you simply ignored them...

 

lol, Flippa did suspend the seller and send a reply they do not have any control on the payment as i used paypal. but, paypal does not care about what flippa says. As per paypal, income claim and traffic claim is considered as service. They can not do any thing.

 

Then escalate your claim...
You already know the seller is not going to respond...
and probably has not since you filed your original paypal dispute...

As you already said, no buyer protection, so if you do not see any
"escalation" options for your paypal dispute, then you have gone
as far as you can with paypal. Once you file a dispute, then paypal
with give a certain time frame for the other party to respond, if they
do not respond, then you can escalate your claim, do you not have that option?
If you do not have an option to escalate your dispute now or in the future then it is over...
(as far as paypal is concerned)

maybe I am just confused....

 

I escalated the claim with flippa's mail and paypal clearly said, they did not consider for what flippa says. As per proof they have, the seller delivered the domain and files. so, they replied, no further action will be taken on my claim.

As a last option, i charged backed with my credit card company, of course, paypal limited my account, attached the charge back with the dispute and started investigation again. Let me wait for the outcome.

The seller was verified user, To verifiy my account, flippa asked to me add my credit card too, so, i thought, flippa has some control on users and can help the users from scammers. in reallity, it looks like, the flippa will take action only if the payment is made through flippa escrow. They will not take any legal action as per their TOS.

 

that makes sense...

1: you filed your dispute via flippa, so paypal denied your claim, and considered it closed.
2: you file a dispute with your cc, and as noted above, I did mention you run the chance of
getting your paypal account banned or limited, so they have....
3: paypal will now present their evidence to your bank that you got what you paid for...
(now it is between your bank and paypal....)
4: Either way, win or lose, will paypal restore your account when it is over....

You may have been mislead by false information, however, flippa told paypal that you
got what you paid for, so paypal is most likely thinking that you are the scammer.