New subdomain with poor Google listing.

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by alephito, Apr 24, 2006.

  1. #1
    Two months ago I created a subdomain. Inmediately Google indexed over 60,000 pages and started leading over 1,000 daily visitors.

    A month ago, something happened. if I run site:subdomain.domain.com I only get "Results 1-3 of about 22,600". You can only see these three results and nothing else. Obviously, the visits fell to near 0.

    Is this related to the Google Sandbox? Is there anything I could do?

    The main domain is 7 years old and this has never ocurred to me.

    Thanks in advance.
     
    alephito, Apr 24, 2006 IP
  2. alephito

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    By the way, the subdomain has PR6 after the last update.
     
    alephito, Apr 24, 2006 IP
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    Hi Alephito,

    If you didn't make any significant changes to your site, I'd guess that this change has something to do with the recent Google updates ('Big Daddy', and another "phantom" update started in April with no name at present). Your best bet is probably to wait out the changes, and continue to do the things that prompted Google to index 60,000 pages in the first place.

    HTH,
    Sam
     
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    Thanks for your answer.

    Well, I only linked the subdomain to my PR 6 main domain. Nothing else.

    But do you know why Google shows only "Results 1-3 of about 22,600", in spite of the 22,600 indexed pages?
     
    alephito, Apr 25, 2006 IP
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    The only think I can think if is that they view all of the other pages as "similar", and are filtering the results. Is there something at the bottom of the search page that indicates that there are additional results that have been filtered?

    Sam
     
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    No, there is nothing. Frankly, this is the first time I see something like this: three results listed and nothing else. But above it says "Results 1-3 of about 21,900" (700 less than yesterday). Check for yourself.

    Thanks anyway for your attention.
     
    alephito, Apr 25, 2006 IP
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    Had something very similar to one of my sites. The pages are there for sure. It can be that you have connected to a different Google Data Center. Try a pageranking tool like www.webuildpages.com and see if they can see the pages.
     
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    I couldn't find a tool to do what you suggested, Yannis, but you gave me an idea: I checked site:subdomain.domain.com some-known-keyword and somehow more results were shown. As you said, the indexed pages are there. But the fact is daily visits fell from over 1,000 to near 0. I think these pages, those not visible with site:subdomain.domain.com, are not taken into account in regular searches. The problem is I don't know why and what I can do to solve it.

    What did you do in your case?
     
    alephito, Apr 25, 2006 IP
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    Now it shows only "Results 1-2 of about 20,600". Any idea?
     
    alephito, Apr 26, 2006 IP
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    Could it be related to "Duplicated Content"?

    Any experience?
     
    alephito, Apr 27, 2006 IP
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    Sounds like a duplicate content filter. Google probably realized that not much is different in all those 20,000 pages.
     
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    Hey Alephito,

    I suppose it could be due to a duplicate content filter, but that's an assumption. In all honesty, I've never seen anything like this before, and I do a lot of searches on Google. Did you ever contact Google to ask them why this may be? I don't think you probably have anything to lose, and it might provide some answers to your questions.

    Sam
     
    WebFreedom, Apr 28, 2006 IP
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    How should I contact them? Do you know where is their contact form for these kind of issues?

    Thanks.
     
    alephito, Apr 28, 2006 IP
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    Hi Alephito,

    You can contact Google the SE here:

    http://www.google.com/contact/index.html

    If you don't get a timely response (I've heard rumors ;)), you may want to contact AdSense Support, and they may be able to provide some input.

    HTH,
    Sam
     
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    SE's are crazy, so if I wouldn't have touched that 7 year old domain, instead make a new one, and link to it with the 7 year old one - it'll get indexed real fast.
     
    bluesync, Apr 30, 2006 IP