New Strategies to Rank Higher

Discussion in 'Bing' started by EasyVertex, Jun 16, 2006.

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    As we know, MSN recently implemented a new algo which substantially shakened its index and mixed up rankings of websites.

    It is evident that new strategy should be implemented now in order to keep up with changes that MSN made to its algo. Thus, my questions is whether someone knows what to do and what MSN favors now in SEO.

    Thanks for responses!
     
    EasyVertex, Jun 16, 2006 IP
  2. brenda

    brenda Peon

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    I think the algo is messed up. But its been too long, so do tell me if you get to know something about the new algo.

    Brenda
     
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  3. jwbond

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    i have been asking myself the same question recently (dropped from #1 to #5). i wonder if they will tweak it a bit, as the new #1 site is a scrapper blog site (use to steal my text until I threatened legal action).
     
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  4. EasyVertex

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    Is it more like Google now? I see some similarities.
     
    EasyVertex, Jun 19, 2006 IP
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    MattUK Notable Member

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    #5
    MSN is still less picky about links, they still seem to like sitewides, basically quantity over quality when compared to Google.
     
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    #6
    MSN is behind the google. Google is much much matured search engine than MSN. Google apply wonderful techniques for quality test while msn is using old methods which are already overtaken by seos.
     
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  7. Web Gazelle

    Web Gazelle Well-Known Member

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    It looks like old school Google to me. Lots of keyword stuffing of URLs and Title Tags on the sites that rank at the top. Google figured that one out a long time ago and changed their algo to deal with that.
     
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  8. EasyVertex

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    So, as I understand, MSN is less contrained by time factor than Google, right? What about a sandbox problem there? Does it exist in MSN?
     
    EasyVertex, Jun 20, 2006 IP
  9. MattUK

    MattUK Notable Member

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    Yep, MSN is non exixtant. You can easily get a site to rank in less than two weeks. Don't worry about optimising specifically for it and just get a couple of large sitewides and you'll be laughing.
    It is hardly worth it though, the traffic is terrible.
     
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    Web Gazelle Well-Known Member

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    Traffic is terrible and your right, I am seeing sites ranking by their inbound links alone. Keyword density of 0% but lots of inbound links with those keywords in the anchor text.
     
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    Velocity Well-Known Member

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    What I like to do is to analyze top 10 websites, and optimize mine according to that. That always tells me (as far as onsite optimization goes) what the search engine favors. It's really simple thing to do, but it will guarantee you a perfect onsite optimization :cool:
    As far as MSN traffic goes, I get around 10% of traffic that Google sends me, for the same keyword and position. That's still something.
     
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    Web Gazelle Well-Known Member

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    MSN gives some traffic, but nothing to make me jump out of my pants over. :cool:
     
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    Yeah, MSN sends quite abit of traffic to my site. But like said above it is not hard to get ranked in MSN.
     
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    It seems very easy to get ranked high at MSN. Usually by doing the similar thing for SEO for Google, your rank at MSN will be top 20 in no time.
     
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    i rank #1 within a week, but nowhere on yahoo and google
     
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    Try ranking #1 for MySpace Games, lol. I used to be on the first page of it on MSN.
     
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    you are on page #2 now.
     
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    If MSN hardly brings in any traffic, Then why try to rank on it?
     
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    I'm ranked with several keywords #1 both on Google and MSN, but MSN is only 3% of my search engine traffic. Do I need to say more... :rolleyes:

    I'm serious, the time you spend on making your pages rank better in MSN is better used for Google. Let's be honest, even my mother in law who is going to make her first web page is probably going to be ranked in the top 10 with "knitting for oldies".
     
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    But in my country, ppl use MSN more than google, cause most of them were hotmail users, so no wonder.. they know msn more than google
     
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