New sites in the Sandbox

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by nlgordaz, Feb 28, 2006.

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    I’m launching a new site and I wanted to know the best way to minimize the time spent in the Google Sandbox. I realize it probably has to do with how the link popularity of the site is built? Can I get any suggestions on how to get out of the Sandbox as fast as possible with a new site?

    Cheers,
    Noah
     
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  2. Brad Callen

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    I dont think you can avoid it for really competitive keywords.

    But the best way would be to provide lots of high quality content, and gain backlinks naturally.

    Submit articles to help with backlinks if you want to.

    But not the quickest way about things and wont work in a competitive niche.

    Develop a site that people love. That would do it also.

    Bit of a catch 22 really :)

    Brad
     
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  3. Shoemoney

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    pay the 300$ to yahoo for inclusion and also pay zeal.com

    try to get in dmoz asap...

    buy some high pr links.

    buy a old domain and 301 it to yours
     
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    shoemoney, has google got its act together with 301's so that this would give the benefits of traffic from old domain?
     
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    I have had great experiences 301'ing with google
     
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    Thanks for confirming :)
     
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    Shoemoney,

    A little off base there on buying Yahoo!, Zeal and snagging a DMOZ listing. I've seen many a site get a quick DMOZ listing (within 1 week) and a quick Yahoo! dir listing (within 1 week) and a few other decent links and get sandboxed for uncompetitive terms.

    I don't quite think this is the magic bullet. But I love to theorize about how to get around the sandbox.

    If you think about, and re-read Matt Cutts' comments on this filter you get the strong feeling that it can be avoided. Let's keep in mind this filter was designed to preclude spammers from launching a bevy of sites w/little content, getting them banned, and then doing the whole thing over again (while making a nice bit of coin in the process). This should give us some intuition on what things we should really avoid (stale, weak content from the getgo, spike in questionable links, etc).

    Have you listened to Matt's interview on Webmasterradio.fm? There are a few lines in that interview that really get me thinking.

    Love to hear your input on the filter though.
     
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    Hi alphacooler, could you tell me where these comments are? I'd like to read what he said (I can't believe I missed that!)
     
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    Can anyone tell me if a site has pagerank does this mean they are still in the sandbox ???
     
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    Actually I have heard Matt say in person dir.yahoo.com zeal botw.org and dmoz.
     
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    Getting listed in dmoz... I haven't had any luck with site getting listed in dmoz.

    Does anybody has good experience with their site listed in dmoz ? or any suggestions on how to get site listed in dmoz..

    thanks !
     
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    The way I understand it, with Dmoz, if you don't pay for it to be listed, then it can take months get your site added to the listings.
     
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    I think you really misunderstand.... dmoz is free.. unless of course you bribe a editor
     
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    isnt that the only way to get in? :p
     
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    or you are a editor.
     
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    fast listing in a web directory such as dmoz zeal-looksmart depends on how you are respectful with the web directory ( regarding their policies ).

    I keep zeal and dmoz listing at the end of my web directoires list i have to submit to just when i think my website is really really ready and when i made plenty of mistakes on other web directories before that.:rolleyes:
     
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