I would expect that ratio, based on good moderation practice. The other point to note here is that, if bad submissions are left in the queue it prevents the person from resubmitting. Deleting that submission allows the person to submit again, creating an endless ongoing stream of negative work for the editor. Correct? Or do the scripts track deleted submissions and disallow those URLs to be submitted again? So to me, the pending queue is largely irrelevant in terms of whether I would submit or not. However, coupled with the "active" link queue it can give an insight into what is going on. I don't think of any number of pending links to be a high number. But I would consider anything less than a couple of hundred additions per month to be low (somewhere in the vicinity of 5-10 per day, which if this is a weekly project would be around 35-70/week, which wouldn't take a lot of time to review/edit/approve). At IVS nothing is *deleted* it sits in a "removed" queue, and thus if a submission is deleted it cannot be submitted ever again. This was done purposely to prevent having to continuously delete the same spammy URLs
I wonder though how many repeat spammy submissions you actually get. From what spam I see, it seems like there might be several submissions for the same URL within minutes but the next time Flowers from India stops by it's with a new URL. Also, why not move them by the screenful to a banned status? ES offers that, doesn't phpLD too?
lol... ptc sites and sites like these always sux... sites like these always down the moral the person who working for his website
This often happens as most of the people are running after the number of directory submission they can make as a whole and not for the quality of the site they are submitting to. It seems they never look at the figures or don't care about the time for approval.
Brent, I wouldn't agree fully with the above point. Actually they are doing a great job. This free PR 6 directory gets over 1000 submissions per day. Will they have time to review everything? No way. They will not have time / revenue model to support it. Out of this 1000 submissions per day, around 800 submissions can be deleted in a minute without even looking through by some good thumb rules. Then he would have 200 to review. Adding some more iterative rules and spending around an hour or two, a directory admin can slash through these submissions, but why would they want to have these many pending submissions and show it publicly? 1) If they use PHPLD they want to stop re-submissions. PHPLD doesn't offer a way to stop re-submission if the entry is deleted. 2) They want to scare folks who are "legitimate" free submitters and want them to push towards the paid submissions. A legitimate guy who is submitting his website to a directory will see this pending numbers and will tend to buy a paid submission. This is what revenues the directory guy. You would know better than me. When I say legitimate submitters I refer to web masters who are submitting to web directories. A non legitimate submission is the SEO folks and other guys who use automated submissions by filling their description with crappy content. For example, let's take my example. I own a PR 6 directory too - http://smsweb.org - Listed in http://web-directories.ws too... In my case the number of active links are very less because we are just 23 days old. I get over 750 submissions per day and here is what I refer as non legitimate submissions: 1) Though we have a big warning to submit only unique site description in http://www.smsweb.org/submit.php, we get over 99.5% duplicate copied content that is being used in some other directory or scrapped from own site or scrapped from an article directory. 2) I purposely made 'Featured Listing' button as default submit button to identify spammers. Every day out of 750 submissions we get around 100 to 200 Featured submission who doesn't pay. This means folks just hit the submit link or open submit page and submit as such without even knowing what they do. They either use auto submission software or they are simply done by a 20 old jerk who is being hired in a SEO company whose daily job is to submit to 100 directories and nothing else. I use this as a signal to eliminate non legitimate submissions. 3) Daily I get over 50 to 100 e-mail bounce backs. People don't even use a free correct e-mail in the submission form clearly marking signals for spam. I basically use the above 2 signals to eliminate most of my spams and we approve close to 15 to 30 free submissions per day. We reject over 100 to 200 submissions per day. Rest all move to the pending status and it will keep growing beyond our comprehension. They will be reviewed at a later point of time and it may take few weeks or months. Some time over the weekend I take a crack at this and remove some massive number of submissions. If a person is really interested to get listed, they will have to go for a paid submission for which they will have to pay a nominal charge of $10 in my case and $7 in the case of http://freeprwebdirectory.com. I think this is a reasonable cost that foods the directory owner to keep his "Free" directory clean, spam free and "really human edited".
Doesn't phpLD offer a "Suspended" or "Banned" status for listings? Rather than keep messing with thousands of pending listings, why not change the status and move them out of the main queue?
PHPLD has an option to ban. But that bans both the website and the IP. Personally i don't want to ban an IP just because they have submitted one spamy website. Oh yeah. If you are 'free' and have a decent PR, you will be bombarded with submissions
I'm hearing what you are saying, and I guess if they took the time to do that, the "pending link visual" above would show us something completely different from their resource. We here are making a big assumption based on 1 number. I sit here crowing everyday about people being strict about what they add. If the site is listing slowly, that's a good thing in my opinion. Of course you'd have to take a long look at their content, to ascertain whether they are adding slowly because they are being strict or adding slowly because they are only including paid submissions. I don't think we can answer that question by looking at the pending/active link status. Only a deeper review of the directory could tell us that. So, to me, my opinion is unchanged. The pending link number, on its own, is irrelevant.
I don't submit to any directory If it's pending number is above 5000 this is indeed a very useful feature of any directory but some people will never get this.