New MSN

Discussion in 'Bing' started by uca, Jan 10, 2005.

  1. #1
    Does anybody already have a CLEAR idea of what MSN appreciates the most, because I'm soon going to be in trouble when the beta version becomes the actual.
    I know most of you are looking forward to the new version I am not! :mad:
    I hope it's the description that I don't even bother using anymore and little else, any hints?
     
    uca, Jan 10, 2005 IP
  2. fryman

    fryman Kiss my rep

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    When I tweaked my on-page optimization my rankings at MSN started to climb. I guess they are like Yahoo and like to see you work on your site.
     
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  3. uca

    uca Well-Known Member

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    Thank you, fryman!

    Still, there's definetely more and I hope someone has something to add.

    I am actually building my sites, so there are frequent changes, still, beta MSN doesn't like them, the actual MSN yes! :(
     
    uca, Jan 11, 2005 IP
  4. john_loch

    john_loch Rodent Slayer

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    Anchor text is big also.

    Cheers,

    JL
     
    john_loch, Jan 11, 2005 IP
  5. chachi

    chachi The other Jason

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    yeah, it appears that the MSN beta is a combo of Yahoo on-page and anchor text. Wonder how they decided to do that? :rolleyes:
     
    chachi, Jan 11, 2005 IP
  6. spdude

    spdude Guest

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    The new MSN rewards agressive SEO too much IMO. One of our *link pages* ranks number one for "Clothes", if you can believe that!

    I use heavy H1 fonts and alot of internal hyperlinks to my own pages (with css it doesn't look bad, H1 is made to look just a bit bigger than normal bold).. lots of on-page SEO, then thousands of links are set up using php code (rotating anchors) from big directory type web-sites. I always target dozens of small phrases.. the word "clothes" was coming in them all. MSN gave us credit, I guess.
     
    spdude, Jan 16, 2005 IP
  7. Refrozen

    Refrozen Peon

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    Perhaps by crawling Google for the anchor text weight, recording Google's results, then making their own (or crawling Yahoo) for the onpage stuff? :p :p
     
    Refrozen, Jan 16, 2005 IP
  8. ResaleBroker

    ResaleBroker Active Member

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    My experience leads me to believe that MSN Beta favors backlinks. The site I referrence is "SalesPractice" and the term is "Sales Training."
     
    ResaleBroker, Jan 16, 2005 IP
  9. Infiniterb

    Infiniterb Well-Known Member

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    Backlinks are huge for MSN Beta.
     
    Infiniterb, Jan 17, 2005 IP
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    cgo85 Peon

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    Yeah... I'm seeing backlinks as being very important... not so much on page stuff though. Also, from what I'm seeing they've switched over already. Maybe a regional thing though.
     
    cgo85, Jan 17, 2005 IP
  11. Infiniterb

    Infiniterb Well-Known Member

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    I wonder if all of California converted to it. It still says "beta" here in Sacramento, but has converted. I was in SF today and it was converted as well.
     
    Infiniterb, Jan 17, 2005 IP
  12. ferret77

    ferret77 Heretic

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    its show beta resutls from the msn homepage here in Miami
     
    ferret77, Jan 18, 2005 IP
  13. my3cents

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    I'm in the midwest and seeing beta results for both IE and Firefox (over the weekend I would just see beta results when using Firefox).

    Looks good!

    And to chime in on what seems to work best, I agree with the above that standard SEO seems to help a great deal. Keep you pages simple! That is always my rule of thumb!!!
     
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  14. john_loch

    john_loch Rodent Slayer

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    Do your IBL anchors include 'sales forums' and 'sales books' ? because you rank quite well for those too.. or do you feel you have more volume than your immediate competitors ?

    Cheers,

    JL
     
    john_loch, Jan 18, 2005 IP
  15. ResaleBroker

    ResaleBroker Active Member

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    Yes, my IBL anchors do include those terms. :)
     
    ResaleBroker, Jan 18, 2005 IP