New&Important facts about Iran + The countdown

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    Timeline of nuclear program of Iran

    The history - Some important points

    * 1957 The United States and Iran sign a civil nuclear co-operation agreement as part of the US Atoms for Peace program.

    * September 1967, The USA supplies 5.545 kg of enriched uranium, of which 5.165 kg contain fissile isotopes for fuel in a research reactor. The USA also supplies 112 kg of plutonium, of which 104 kg are fissile isotopes, for use as start-up sources for research reactor.

    * 1970s: Under the rule of Mohammad Reza Shah Pahlavi, plans are made to construct up to twenty nuclear power stations across the country with U.S. support and backing.

    * 1975: Massachusetts Institute of Technology signs a contract with the Atomic Energy Organization of Iran to provide training for Iranian nuclear engineers.

    * January 1995: Iran signs an $800 million contract with the Russian Ministry of Atomic Energy (MinAtom) to complete reactors at Bushehr under IAEA safeguards.

    * August 2002: A spokesman for the MEK terrorist group holds a press conference to "expose" two nuclear facilities in Natanz and Arak that they claim to have discovered. However, the sites were already known to US intelligence.

    Let the diplomatic fight begin

    * December 2002: The U.S. accuses Iran of attempting to make nuclear weapons.

    * Spring 2003: Iran makes an offer of negotiation with the US that covers nuclear matters and Iran's support for Palestinian groups resisting Israeli occupation. The offer is spurned by the Bush administration.

    * June 2004: Kamal Kharrazi, Iran's foreign minister, responding to demands that Iran halt its nuclear program, says: "We won't accept any new obligations. Iran has a high technical capability and has to be recognised by the international community as a member of the nuclear club. This is an irreversible path."

    * August 10 2004: Several long-standing charges and questions regarding weapons-grade uranium samples found in Iran are clarified by the IAEA. Some samples match Pakistani and Russian sources which had contaminated imported Iranian equipment from those countries

    The threats

    * August 24 2004: Iranian Foreign Minister Kamal Kharrazi declares in Wellington, New Zealand, that Iran will retaliate with force against Israel or any nation that attempts a pre-emptive strike on its nuclear program. Earlier in the week, Israel's Chief of Staff, General Moshe Ya'alon, told an Israeli newspaper that "Iran is striving for nuclear capability and I suggest that in this matter [Israel] not rely on others."

    * April 26 2006: Supreme Leader of Iran, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei said that Americans should know that if they assault Iran their interests will be harmed anywhere in the world that is possible, and that the Iranian nation will respond to any blow with double the intensity.

    * April 9 2007:president Ahmadinejad has announced Iran can now produce nuclear fuel on an industrial scale. Some officials said 3,000 uranium gas enrichment centrifuges were running at the Natanz plant in central Iran.

    Source "Wikipedia"

    The future
    Stays unclear, in my opinion the countdown has already begun until the strike at the iranian nuclear:eek:production centers, ether by the U.S or by Israel which is being directly and formaly threatened dayli by the Iranian which also support the terror in Israel.:mad:


    :eek: Must watch : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVbGUw2Wwn8
    Watch the beginning - The shocking facts.

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    Comments...
     
    Lemon116, May 22, 2007 IP
  2. Arnie

    Arnie Well-Known Member

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    #2
    Quite a nice overview. Thanks
     
    Arnie, May 22, 2007 IP
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    forumrating Notable Member

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    #3
    im not too sure that some one should strike over their production centers, it will make a impact worldwide, as long as things can be resolved with talks. most imp thing is they should clear things, from past history just looks like a drag.
     
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  4. Arnie

    Arnie Well-Known Member

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    You can't stop Iran with talks. Show me one positive sign that were mutually achieved through talks with Iran.

    Instead, any and all attempts to negotiate with them, turns them into using the publicity to further their cause .

    Sad but true.
     
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  5. Lemon116

    Lemon116 Active Member

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    Someone should show the world what a monster looks like, so the world wont stay in illusions like it did in the HOLOCOST when 6 million Jews where murdered becauce of their race.
     
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    forumrating Notable Member

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    #6
    just due to few leaders you cant punish the entire community of people living over there. there has to be some way to avoid this.
    one huge attack would cause world markets to slide with fear of war. these are oil rich countries and u never know if one attack can even power those fire to last endless. a lot of planning would be required to set a attack as well.
     
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  7. Arnie

    Arnie Well-Known Member

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    #7
    The leaders in Iran have the backings of millions of hardcore extremists, that's the problem. Would be nice if it would be easier to solve this problem. The world will not wait until its too late.

    There must be a clear and bold opposition to this regime from within. This is the only chance to avoid the worst.
     
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    N_F_S Active Member

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    Exactly, of course it's easier to bomb everything there instead of finding one by one, who cares about lives, they aren't american, heheh.
     
    N_F_S, May 22, 2007 IP
  9. Lemon116

    Lemon116 Active Member

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    The atack if it happens would be on the atomic reactors and I dont think a new war will begin.
     
    Lemon116, May 22, 2007 IP
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    N_F_S Active Member

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    If you didnt have it yourself, then I could see some sense in the above^.
     
    N_F_S, May 22, 2007 IP
  11. Lemon116

    Lemon116 Active Member

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    Im sorry to a have an atomic reactor under my house but I assure you that when I sleep at night and the button is under my pillow I wont press it unless I be as ugly as This guy with the picture in the beggining of the thread who wants the whole world to become muslim, dimocracy??? - You made him laugh!
     
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    iul Well-Known Member

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    #12
    Israel is tought to have a shitload of nukes. Why should others not have the right to have nukes too?
     
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  13. Lemon116

    Lemon116 Active Member

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    One way - when you keep it secret, why should the world know if everyone has it for peacfull means,me as well ! (the Israel state of mind***)

    *** Note that my thought are not official and are based on pure knowladge, I do not officialy represent Israel. I shall not be responsible, You must not quote this lines anywhere. ;)

    The other way - We decler we have it before we even do and we are proud! Let them all know and be afraid (what if...), Lets shout on the streets and make a gay (happie;)) demonstration !

    (The Iranian state of mind)
     
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  14. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #14
    Isn't that exactly what Iran is proposing to do? Wipe Israel off the map, convert the world based on their logic? Convert or die?

    Which should "we" (the infidel) be more tolerant of? Apparently islam is not as tolerant as some claim it to be.


    Does Israel make open threats to wipe other countries off the map? Does Israel make threats to convert the world to it's religion? The obvious answer, is no. If Israel has nukes, then clearly it has demonstrated already, it's restraint in using such in the midst of the "peace and tolerance" afforded their country by islam.

    On the other hand, we have a nutjob openly calling for Jewish genocide and threatening to convert the world to islam. And this is who you want to have nukes? I fail to grasp the rationale.
     
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    Toopac Peon

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    #15
    America has a "shitload" of guns. Why should some be stopped from having them? I mean if you have a gun but refuse to let a psychotic person have a gun doesn't that make you an hypocrite?

    I'm sure some of you don't even really know Irans leaders or just speak a load of rubbish for the sake of being "fair"....
     
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    N_F_S Active Member

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    as well as all of you dont know why they hate Israel everywhere around it, right ?
     
    N_F_S, May 22, 2007 IP
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    iul Well-Known Member

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    but in this case isn't America the "psychotic person"? Isn't USA the only country that has ever attacked another country using nukes?
     
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    iul Well-Known Member

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    #18
    what peaceful means could nukes ever have?
     
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  20. N_F_S

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    impossible, I wish there weren't nukes at all. Like in old Napoleon's time :)
     
    N_F_S, May 22, 2007 IP