New Google Algo Update

Discussion in 'Google' started by mopacfan, Jun 28, 2006.

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Has your site been affected by the algo update?

  1. Yes - My site has vanished right before my eyes

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  2. No - Nothing has changed

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  3. Yes - My site was nowhere to be found, now I'm #1

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  4. There was an update?

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  1. The Webmaster

    The Webmaster IdeasOfOne

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    #21
    Oops, I missed that one.(forgot to subscribe to that thread :eek:)

    I am noticing a big movement for one of my sites in different datacenters today, although google.com is not reflecting any chnage....yet
    I think they are still updating/mending/implementing some part of last big daddy update, we have seen it by the time of jagger updates(3 different updates one after one).
     
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  2. Pootwan

    Pootwan Active Member

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    #22
    A few of my sites have a big change, drop, while others unchanged.

    The ones that have been hit show the "site:www no index" symptom. Do the google site:www.yourdomain.com query and see is the first result your index page?

    It used to be "yes" for all my sites, but for the sites with a big drop the answer is now "no".

    The index IS cached, it just doesn't show as the first result in the site: command any more.
     
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  3. enQuira

    enQuira Peon

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    #23
    That's exactly what I am experiencing. my site doesn't show even looking for "domain" in google. I am assured that it is not a penalty to my site, and this proves it is not an update it is something wrong with google unless we have been penalized for the same thing.

    PS: this particular site left the sandbox early march or so, with bigdaddy. It has never suffered any supplementals problems and hasn't been deindexed during the the late indexing problems!!
     
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  4. Pootwan

    Pootwan Active Member

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    #24
    I can still find my sites for the query [domain], but strangely the second or third place is things like .siteadvisor.com or alexa.com pages about the sites. Never saw those in the top10 before, seems they are now "trusted" as wikipedia is.
     
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  5. contactsonia

    contactsonia Active Member

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    #25
    Yes, you are quite right :D
     
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  6. Keone

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    #26
    some of my keywords jumped up arround 20 spots in the serps and I noticed
    that widgets and widget caught up with each other. Widget first was no where to be found and is now showing at approximately the same position as widgets.

    I too had problems with indexed pages and as soon as I removed a lot of outgoing links from my links pages ( I actually removed my linkpage) I got reindexed again.

    I will loose some backlinks I guess but I think google is giving way more weight to one way links. I only had reciprocal links to my blog and it did not get indxed and now it is growing every day.

    I only have a 120 page site or so and I had 15 pages indexed but now I already have 78 indexed and the rest still supplemental but that number is decreasing fast. I removed the recirpocal links a week ago
     
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  7. mobilebay

    mobilebay Active Member

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    #27
    I had better results at the start of the week, it now appears to have rolled back.
     
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  8. MattUK

    MattUK Notable Member

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    #28
    Not seen anything out of the ordinary here. One large jump one one site and others still increasing slowly as they have been over the last months.
     
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  9. amnezia

    amnezia Peon

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    #29
    still in the top ten for the important stuff but theres a lot of fluctuation at the minute.
     
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  10. indepth184

    indepth184 Peon

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    #30
    Just my 2p - but I think it always helps in these situations if people describe what has happened to their sites. About a month ago, my main site really tanked from having 12,900 pages indexed to 2,700 - and of those 2,700 only 30 weren't supplemental. The supplemental pages were all pages that were linked from the homepage or had inbounds from other sites. We don't use link vault, co-op etc, we have a load of unique content and an increasing number of inbound links. We do have a number of pages with no unique content and not that many inbound deep links (although we are trying to improve this). The pr of the home page is 3 (which is strange as there's a few internal pages that are only linked from the homepage which are 4)

    I also run 5 smaller english language sites, none of which were affected at all and around 20 non english language sites which also saw no change whatsoever. Last week the main site went back up to 12,900 and all pages were pulled out of the serps - however we now rank much better for alot of our key terms. It's as if google took all our pages away, only to put them back in slightly better positions. My theories are:

    1) Google messed up last month and has now rectified, (the improved posistion being due to other factors)

    2) Google has messed up now and we're seeing serps from over a month ago, which will soon change to the dismal serps I've been seeing for the past month

    Odd thing is I'm getting about 5 sets of data from different dc's. Personally I think it's just a flux and it'll change again very soon. The other odd thing is that my other much smaller sites saw no change.

    Just my 2p but if anyone's got any thoughts they're always appreciated
     
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  11. Jarodboy

    Jarodboy Prominent Member

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    #31
    I got hit a little bit...My google traffic has decrease these days...:/
     
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  12. seoindiaweb

    seoindiaweb Banned

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    #32
    What is IBL/OBL ??
    hmm my site was #1 which is on #2 and #3 now:(
     
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  13. MattUK

    MattUK Notable Member

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    #33
    You offer SEO services and you don't know IBL and OBL?

    IBL = In Bound Link
    OBL = Out Bound Links
     
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  14. The Webmaster

    The Webmaster IdeasOfOne

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    #34
    You dont know even what is IBL/OBL??

    How do you do SEO??

    IBL=IN Bound Links -> Links pointed to your site.
    OBL=Out Bound Links -> Links from your site, pointed to any other site.
     
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  15. wrkalot

    wrkalot Well-Known Member

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    #35
    For those that think that this "update" will stick, or is complete I say... think again. Why?

    1) I still see 3 sets of data. Even though most DC's have synced I think we are in the eye of hurricaine.

    2) DMOZ titles for many results. Google knows (like we do) the DMOZ is not the best representation of the web. Sites change focus, sites come and go, etc. The web is fluid, DMOZ is not. You know it, Google knows it, the American people know it! ;)

    3) The results for many searches I do are pretty bad. This doesn't effect every sector but it is wide spread. There are several searchs that list several KW target domains that come up in the top 5... these are parked domains that are FOR SALE.

    4) Many of the problems with supplimentals, indexed pages, etc. still are not completely resolved.

    5) I read a lot of forums and blogs. There are quite a few people that I respect and are leaders in SEO and Authorities (IMO) on this stuff. Many of these people have echoed my thoughts, although much more articulately (and with better grammer and spelling ;) )

    I make no predictions, this crazyness has been going on since the Florida update.

    One mans opinion anyway
     
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    debunked Prominent Member

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    #36
    wrkalot - what position are the keywords you are watching?

    1-10, 11-20, etc...
     
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    #37
    My site is showing at 5 - 6 - 9 With different titles, 5,9 DMOZ. 6 with the page title. The rest of the top 10 are vastly different (as in different sites completely) on 1 set, the other 2 sets "almost" look like everflux.

    The top 4 are frozen, the bottom 6 are in flux

    Update... I found a DC (this makes 4 sets of data) where I am at 31.
     
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  18. wrkalot

    wrkalot Well-Known Member

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    #38
    Here are 3 sample DC's where I see vastly different results

    72.14.203.107
    72.14.205.107
    72.14.207.107
     
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    debunked Prominent Member

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    #39
    That is part of what I was looking for - "the top 4 are frozen" I have top 1+2 that have been there for a few years now. Some at 3 or 4 that have moved 1 spot in the last year. Others at 5 to 10 that shift during updates and others past that, that never stop moving daily.
     
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  20. mopacfan

    mopacfan Peon

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    #40
    What I know is that my k/w report looks like a blood bath. Almost every term has dropped off the chart (under 50). This just happened yesterday. It's not big daddy, this is something new. But not everyone is being affected. Of course, when someone goes down :mad: someone else moves up. The serps don't look terrible but they are definitely drawing heavily on directory submissions. I base that on the fact that another site I'm working on, which has only 6-7 pages indexed, is in the top ten for a competitive k/w. Whereas my other site which was well targeted is now gone from the list. All I can do is take wait and see attitude and hope the change does not last long. But from experience, it seems like 3-6 months is the average.
     
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