NEW Footage from the Marmara Security Cameras

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Danielregwan, Jun 2, 2010.

  1. Realm

    Realm Well-Known Member

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    #61
    Don't waste your time on these ignorants. The truth is coming out and what matters the most is that more people are waking up and justice will be brought one day

     
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  2. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #62
    Using a baby as a shield is really nothing new or unique.

    [video=youtube;g0wJXf2nt4Y]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0wJXf2nt4Y[/video]

    Fathi Hammad: [The enemies of Allah] do not know that the Palestinian people has developed its [methods] of death and death-seeking. For the Palestinian people, death has become an industry, at which women excel, and so do all the people living on this land. The elderly excel at this, and so do the mujahideen and the children. This is why they have formed human shields of the women, the children, the elderly, and the mujahideen, in order to challenge the Zionist bombing machine. It is as if they were saying to the Zionist enemy: "We desire death like you desire life."​
     
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  3. Ibn Juferi

    Ibn Juferi Prominent Member

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    #64
    Vilent protests and clashes with police around the world you would never call combats bur here you do that. And you do that only because you are blind israeli supporter and believe every single thing without checking it first. When comes to supporting Israeli you simply turn off your brain and repeating like mantra official Israeli version about some event. Carry on good work.

    Protestors are protestors, a mass of people who only need a little spark to become a ruthless bunch. Those who protest a price of milk can also turn to violence and kill someone easily.
    That's why all around the world you have special units to deal with protesors. You don't send military to deal with them. You simply don't. That's Israeli fuck up. You simply don't send military to deal with that kind of protest.
     
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  5. DevilHellz

    DevilHellz Well-Known Member

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    #65
    Definition of 'peace activist': A peace activist is a political activist who advocates for a peaceful resolution of political disputes.
    Using violence is NOT advocating for a peaceful resolution.
    There is a difference between a 'protester' and a 'peace activist'. You should really check yourself if you don't understand the difference. Maybe it's because you are purposely dishonest, or you are unintentionally uneducated... I don't know.
     
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  6. iggysick

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    #66
    So peace activists are definitly not humans? You mean if you hit peace activist with a club he will not defend himself because he's a peace activist?
     
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  7. DevilHellz

    DevilHellz Well-Known Member

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    #67
    Let me remind you that on "marmara" people with clubs, poles, knives etc were waiting for the soldiers to board the ship. They wanted to fight.
    Let me also remind you that 5 other ships were boarded peacefully without any violence.
    Let me also remind you that IDF boarded the Irish ship and stopped it within 5 minutes - because 'peace activists' do NOT use violence.
    On "marmara" people wanted to clash with IDF, they wanted (and almost succeeded) to take hostages, some of them wanted to become martyrs. Those weren't peace activists, and if you REALLY can't comprehend that fact - again, either you are dishonest or uneducated.
     
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  8. iggysick

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    Lol actually I never claimed that they were all peace activists. Not a single claim from my side about that. I only argue that peaceful human can become violent in those kinds of protests and you guys claim that's impossible. That's all.
     
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  9. Danielregwan

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    #69
    so they were not peace activists, they attacked the soldiers and got shot. about what are we even arguing here?
     
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    #70
    I am waiting on footage how they started to shooting. Why there isn't anything of those shown yet?
    So it's ok to shot a man is he isn't peace activist? How do you know that any of those 9 dead people wasn't peace activist? You believe anything that IDF say?
     
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  11. DevilHellz

    DevilHellz Well-Known Member

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    #71
    Dishonesty again. You argued about this (I quote you):
    A person who becomes violent is NOT a peace activist by default. A violent protester, perhaps. How convenient it is to label myself as a peace activist, spur provocation, and the second before I raise my knife to stab someone, I change my mind and label myself as a regular protester (who in a second becomes violent with the intention to hurt and kill), eh? ;) The leftist and muslim propagandist media is showing us that these people were "defending themselves" and are in fact "peace activists" - which is simply and factually a lie. Ask your muslim DP friends, they'd tell you that they were peace activists.
    Do you agree with your friends? Were these violent people on the "marmara" peace activists? Or violent protesters would better define them? Or terrorists with martyrdom intentions be better? Answer honestly.
     
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    #72
    And that's a claim tht they are peace activists?!? My english suck but yours... cccc
    That's a claim that peace activists can be violent the way I see it. Improve your english before making silly comments.

    Humans are just human and everyone,at one point, can become violent person. Even take a knife and kill or try to kill someone. Murders around the world are commited by ordinary peole, you know those stories, "he would imagine he could do such thing..."
    Honestly, I don't know who initiated that violence on that boat. Without probe (a honest one not carried by israeli investigators alone) noone can claim anything like it is 100% proven fact.
    The way I see it there was someone who initiated violence, probably went on that boat to do that. A mass of people is easy to spark. A mass of protestors usualy go on protests without intention to be violent. Someone or something always spark the flame.

    Btw I don't buy Israeli story about mercenaries and terrorists. For me it's hilarious that ,so called, mercenaries didn't bring ids but they bring pocekts full of dollars with them :D
     
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    [video=youtube;gAuz6HoqV4g]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAuz6HoqV4g&feature=player_embedded[/video]
     
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    #74
    At which point they stop being "peace activists" or "protesters" and become "combatants" and "legitimate targets."

    What on Earth gives you the ridiculous idea that you can attack human beings with deadly weapons and be immune from the consequences of your actions because you are wearing a t-shirt with a peace symbol on it?

    Additionally, this was not a "spur of the moment" decision. The attackers took video of themselves preparing to attack the Jews and they had weapons prepared on deck for the ambush. For safety reasons, ships decks are kept clean and free of clutter. You don't just happen to have knives and clubs laying around on deck. :p
     
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    #75
    Great comeback, you should apply for a job at Al Jazeera. :p
     
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    DevilHellz Well-Known Member

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    #76
    Ah, Realm! It's been a long time... I almost forgot about your intelligent comebacks! On your way to becoming a true DP martyr again, huh? ;)

    I have to admit, that was a good one :)
     
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    Realm Well-Known Member

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    #77
    Willy, that's a good idea, got connections? If so hit me up:)

    No need. I'd prefer watching your none sense spread around :) I wonder how ill you sound in real person though. (I'll feel sorry for your wife)
     
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  18. Will.Spencer

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    #78
    Sure, just call 1-800-LIE4ALLAH. :p
     
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