NEW Footage from the Marmara Security Cameras

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Danielregwan, Jun 2, 2010.

  1. iggysick

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    #41
    Someone hit him in the head with stick. If they wanted to kill him he would be dead. Or do you want to claim that they wanted to kill him but,as we can clearly see on that pic, he's alive and kickin'.
     
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    #42
    I'm glad that you agree that he got attacked with a stick, were the people on the boat Peace activists?
    You got me all confused.. since when does a normal peace activist attacks a soldier and please tell me a name of one country that would tolerate such action. if you truly desire peace and your religion is the religion of peace (with god, whatever) then instead of raising the flame of hate on both sides you should concentrate on a solution. believe it or not we are human beings too and we desire true peace as well.
     
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    #43
    I'm chatolic so my religion is far away from peace :)
    Protestors all around the world attack police and I've posted already several times how protestors attack police with stick but only in Israeli you got 4 bullets in head for that.
    Why shouldn't peace activists be violent? I mean people fight and become violent because of price of milk!

    Anyway my main point here is: if those were terrorists and wanted to kill someone why they didn't?
     
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    Danielregwan Well-Known Member

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    #44
    i thought they were peace activists, now they are protesters equipped with hand guns, knives, baseball bats, ceramic armor to repel bullets and thousands of dollars cash in their pockets - they sound just like the average peace activists and protesters to me don't you think?

    once again you claim to know everything about international law but the fact is you don't, so don't try to lecture anyone here with knowledge you don't possess.

    they shot several soldiers, some were critically wounded. the others were almost beat to death some of them lost their consciousness. it was a miracle no soldiers were killed, thank god.

    you said you are catholic but your religion has nothing to do with peace, what about loving the other? i'm trying to turn the other cheek but you keep kicking me in the balls with your ignorance and self esteem you are sure you got everything figured out don't you ?
     
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    #45
    lol what a bunch of BS! Cmmon! Do you really believe that someone would buy that shitty fairytale?!? A thousands dollars in cash! Like a mercenary didn't bring and ID with him but he did bring thousands of dollars LMAO! You guys are funny with your lies hahaha
    Ceramic armour? Hmmmmmm where? Can I see pics?

    I claim that I know everything? Where?

    In violent protest people do get hurt, unfortunetly but noone got killed. If they were terrorists I'm sure there would be more dead soldiers for sure.

    I didn't everything figured out but you are the one who claim exactly that! You are talking about that event like you were there yourself and when I ask logic question you start to attacks me. Answer simple questions, ask yourself same question and you'll see that thing aren't how they look like. Actually you simply repeating official IDF version like mantra.
    Mercenaries? My ass..
     
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    Danielregwan Well-Known Member

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    #46
    im not going to waste my time on you, grow up.

    p.s.
    you are a muslim.
     
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    #47
    And I must be a muslim because you hate muslims right?
    Of course you won't waste your time on me because you simply don't have any arguments. As simple as that.
    Grow up kid.
     
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    #48
    I can't think of anything I could add which could possibly make that sentence look any more stupid.
     
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    #49
    They are just humans like everyone else. They aren't angels. And humans got killed because of frigin' soccer games! A damn soccer games! Can you imagine killing another human beign because of a game?!?
     
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    #50
    Neither are they "peace activists." Once you make the decision to engage in combat, you're a combatant.

    If I killed someone because of a football game, would that qualify me as a "peace activist"? :p
     
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    #51
    That's your opinion.

    The real question would be: would that qualify you as a terrorist?
     
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    #52
    No, that's the English language.

    Main Entry: com·bat·ant
    Pronunciation: \kəm-ˈba-tənt also ˈkäm-bə-tənt\
    Function: noun
    Date: 15th century

    : one that is engaged in or ready to engage in combat​

    You are entitled to your own opinions; you are not entitled to your own facts.

    Worse, your terrorist friends didn't qualify themselves only as combatants, but as unprivileged combatants. This makes them liable for criminal prosecution. The Israeli's were very kind when they declined to prosecute.
     
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    #53
    You also claimed like it was fact that idf soldeirs asked for permission to shoot and it was false.
    You also claimed that none of their soldeirs got killed because there was shooting going on so they didn't had a chance to kill them and that was false too.
    You keep posting your opinions as a facts.
    Carry on.
     
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    #54
    Was the child on the Marmara or just with her at the airport? It begs the question what kind of sick demented person would bring a one year old child to break a naval blockade?
     
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    #55
    If you have to ask the question I hardly think you would understand the answer.
     
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    #56
    Do you now admit that people who engage in combat are combatants? :p

    Are you still claiming that there was no shooting going on during the event? How do you explain the bullet holes in all those terrorists? :p
     
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    #57
    I wouldn't call violence on that boat a combat. Stupid thing yes but not combat. I understand why Israel now telling the world fairy tales about mercenaries and ceramic vests.

    Again, do you still claiming that they didn't kill any of soldeirs because there was shooting going on? You don't even know where did shooting start! Or do you?
    Based on pictures showed in turkish magazine there weren't any shooting going on at time when pictures was taken and they could've easily kill soldeirs on pictures if they wanted too or if it was their goal.

    Again, humans kills each others because of soccer games. Humans got extremly violent because of prices of milk! Why would peace activists be any diferent? They aren't humans or... ?

    Edit to add: I should've probably say why could've peace activists be violent.
     
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    #58
    If you're going to be that silly, why bother calling it a boat? Why not call it a daffodil?

    It's useless to talk to you if all you do is make up your own definitions for English words.

    Ahem... let's try this just one more time. Football players engage football. Peace activists engage in peace. Combatants engage in combat.

    Beating, stabbing, and shooting people is not peaceful. If you find yourself beating, stabbing, and shooting people -- you are not a peace activist.

    If you want to be a peace activist, you have to be peaceful.

    I can't imagine how I can make this any more simple for you.
     
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    #59
    The child was a passenger on the Mavi Marmara accompanying their parents, along with the many others on board. Since it was intended to be a peace mission, they were brought onboard for that sole purpose. What kind of sick, demented individual would want to assume otherwise?
     
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    #60
    There's no need to assume. We have video footage, taken before the event, of the idiots on the ship planning violence. We then have video footage, taken at the beginning of the event, of the idiots initiating the attack on the sailors.

    It appears that your friends, the sick demented individuals, mislead that stupid young lady into coming aboard the ship, even though they obviously had plans for violence.
     
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