Nah I disagree! Just ebcause everyone else is doing it doesnt make it right. I'm from the old school "What goes around comes around", cheaters don't prosper. Course they'll make some money but in the long run it will bite them in the ass. Actually that happened to one of my competitors lately he copied my strategy and no he got his hubpages banned haha lol. I got a email from him crying to me about what went wrong!!
Here is a screenshot of what the final COULD look like, it's in the lab and the final may look/act quite different but this is the jist so far.
I would love to hear other peoples opinions too actually! Do you think this is immoral and 'wrong'? Are we doing anything 'newschool' or just plain 'stealing'? Not 'technically' - we are simply mining data - HOWEVER the tool itself is $299 and it's free when people grab our funnels2wealth course so I can't say I feel bad about any of this. If our sales callout page or functions seem aggressive then great because that's how we want to market this - as a 'cut throat' campaign, however please realize that it's just that = a campaign to software that helps vendors and affiliates and is an alternate to the heavy hitter price tags - intuitive and I'm helping those that can't afford the overpriced stuff so they get left behind or give up... BUT having said all that - I do want to hear other peoples opinions. **Please tell me why you feel this is more of a threat than a helpful tool? Tell me why the other tools like this are getting such respect even though they are limited and pricy? Either way - my moral meter is still ok and this is but a marketing campaign to marketers gone wild! FEEDBACK WANTED<< NC,
I am not trying to be in anybody side right now but Patckaa don't you think the technology is changing and we ( affiliates and vendors )need to change with it . Let's face it for a moment , if NC didn't create this product later on somebody would create it , so I respect your opinion mate but sometimes you just got to let things go . NC I got one question for you . If any vendors or affiliates buy this product from you . Would people still be able to spy on their names or campaigns . Example : if Mr XXX and I buy this product . Would Mr XXX still be able to spy on my campaign ?
You're entitled to your opinion and its sad that you think theres nothing wrong with showing affliliates how to cheat and cut peoples throats.
Actually this type of product isn't all that unique and similar software/scripts have been around for a couple of years now. The ability to spy on competitors keywords/adwords/sites is pretty common and there are numerous sites that let you do it for free now. Although I don't know a lot about this software it looks to me like it just shortcuts a tedious job as the majority of the information that I can see in the screenshot above I'm sure I could find out anyway although it would take a while. But after you have that information you still have to do the ground work and build sites, make adwords campaigns and thats where a lot of people lose interest, they look for a 1 click solution to everything and aren't prepared to do the ground work. It's just another tool but tools don't work on their own, they have to be worked. Terry
Eactly bro these tools are aimed at newbies that think with just one click they'll be making millions over night but find out that they still have to do research.
Hi David, I have turned the PM into an optin- please optin at http://www.thefatrichpig.com - the rest will happen there regarding getting involved early, getting a copy early etc. Hello NCMedia have optined in , Thank You. o .... is it old school or not ... the gurus may have the technolgy , and this may level the field a little bit ... (I donot want my throat cut either) Cheers David
** There will always be radar for a radar - meaning no in some cases you simply will not be able to hide, that's why this is so powerful. I don't know how the algorythm works personally but know a lot went into it. Exilus: Please opt-in= http://www.thefatrichpig.com **You have a great way with words, I think I'm going to make that the new tagline on the site - good marketing call to action "I see nothing wrong with showing YOU how to destroy your competitors" - not sure about cutting anyones throat though... Nobody is actually cheating, we're just letting a software automate what would take you weeks or months in one session and in no time. I'm giving everyone including you a tool to make money faster at the end of the day, how can you hate on that?! **Very well put thank you. I'm not saying I'm turning you into a millionare overnight, I'm providing you with *Competitive intel fast-tracked *Campaign research instantly *Vendor statistics and info *Recruitment automation *Data Mining in various creative ways YOU will definitely still have to 'do stuff', and no 'one click' will not make millions pour into your account... However if you are wise, and see the big picture here, you will a) be able to sell this like hotcakes b) be able to stay up to speed with the bigwigs out there c) fast-track your campaign and product dev. to compete in this shark pool we call IM. **Same as above - targeting marketers of ANY level is a feat in itself, this is a no brainer tool and is transparent, you get what you see and that intel has tremendous value to it. The fact that this is the add on to this kit is also worth noting, and the main product is a 50 page insiders look into IM and the various rev streams one can quickly overlap, along with an upgrade to another premium product. All in all this is still helping any newbie or even interm/advanced marketer FAR MORE than most bigshot packages and claims out there, and costs FAR LESS - the tool is an extra that is meant to cause controversy so I'll stop justifying here as I like brutal feedback **Thank you - Don't worry noones throat is being cut-Patchkaa started a train with that phrase I haven't used it once in any page - however you WILL have a tremendous advantage with this if you should happen to get it - you WILL have an easy time selling this because you are now a part of my inner circle with this, welcome to the fam. **I think it's time finally take a look at it - forced myself NOT to look at them as they might limit my thinking for this - we're still going to expand after the launch and this will probably version over time. UPDATE: We're playing with a few other ideas on how to make this unique and even more powerful than we have it... **NEW-Ability to also plug in any PayDotCom product ID and pull up their results too **We'll be adding other networks over time as well. **We're probably only going to give out the first 1-2K copies of this as a one time offer - after which we will put this into a recurring monthly membership when we launch the next version. Will keep everyone posted as this rolls out, we're excited! NC. ...come on board or move aside - http://www.thefatrichpig.com...
Looks like you are trying to continue where Affiliate Elite left off. Being able to contact affiliates via email or some other means is key to bring on JV's for a particular launch or to help up-sell your products. Looking good Peace
Affiliate Elite is probably the advanced version of this, I mean AffElite is $40 a month. Norm designed a similiar product most advertiser can afford. I've tried SpyFu, KeyCompete, AffElite, and KeywordSpy. KeywordSpy was probably my favorite, but I'm not paying $90 a month. I currently am with AffElite. AffElite has 4 tools. The first being research tool and personally the Research tool is pretty handy, but nothing I would pay for. There Aff Id and Merchant Id search isn't as good as keywordspy's tool. And they give you another tool called analyze competition, which is nothing more than a manual tool to analyze competition ad positiions. The only tool i use daily is the reversegoogle tool which gives u the keywords and the ads. Now what I can tell you Norm about AffElite, is that they conviently show you the ad rank, ad text, keyword cpc, keyword daily clicks and some other useful data. But they are also horribly taking there results from spyfu.com. Are you taking your results from an already established Spy tool, or are you actually datamining your own results? Out of curiosity is the copywriter edmund loh? Vene
Hi Vene. Thank you kindly for the valuable post! **Repped In random order: 1. We are doing our own data mining and so far have not used any spyfu or other data. 2. The copy writing is actually my own - however we're getting the same writer that Ewen Chia uses for the main site... will be kicka**. 3. Name is Norb not Norm, just to clarify 4. I wasn't actually aware that there are so many and that they cost so much!! We're going to potentially pick up a lot of the market with this - competitive campaigning anyone? 5. We're brainstrorming with our dev. team to maximize this tool so whatever other funky mining etc. as above that we can do - we will! Norb.
**Thank you - Don't worry noones throat is being cut-Patchkaa started a train with that phrase I haven't used it once in any page - however you WILL have a tremendous advantage with this if you should happen to get it - you WILL have an easy time selling this because you are now a part of my inner circle with this, welcome to the fam. NCMedia Thank You Very Much for your above comments. David Jackson
The thing most people don't realize is that this type of stuff has been available for years if you know the right people. There is nothing intrinsically wrong with data mining , in fact I hope everyone in this forum does it (you do check your website stats don't you?). A tool like this is just a few levels above that. There is nothing wrong with being provided with the information you then have the choice how you use it.. Do you copy someone site or use it for inspiration. The choice is yours. I have the tools here that could steal the commission from under affiliate noses...BUT I don't use them and never will. Being able to contact affiliates is excellent once again it's down to you how you use the info. On a personal level i do have a problem with tools like this being targeted at newbies. Newbies should learn how everything works by actually doing it. not relying on tools from the start. Once you make money and you have learned the little nuances of affiliate marketing then by all means buy tools and use the power of the tools to expand you business.. Bring it on i say . Give me the info and I'll decide how i should use it.
**You're welcome, I look forward to seeing what you can do with this! **Admirable post - great views - repped. Information exchange is valuable after all - getting insider information or competitive intel or analytics of ANY kind is your best friend in the end. This applies to life in general not just a digital product - analyzing your defeat/success and reshaping your next attempt, we do it everyday. An average marketers daily analytics: * Login to CB/CJ/PDC/Other and check stats/sales/performance - reshape. * Login to various traffic analytics, analyze - reshape. * Login to adwords x times a day, analyze - reshape. * Go to google/msn/yh/etc - search/research product/competition,analyze... yep - reshape. * Login to Paypal (if applicable) check sales trends - analyze - reshape. * Check any/all forums - plug in your .02 - hope for feedback/clicks/sigs...repost * Check all article directories/login - check article response/analyze - rewrite. * Check squidoo/blogger/2.0 sites - refriend/post/digg/shape. * Eat something - think... go back and apply thoughts. * Log in to adbrite/other alternates for adspots - analyze - acquire. * Youtube - needs a post of its own... - shape/upload/link...analyze... Anyway the point is we do analytics more than some bankers and big daily number crunchers - we all have a knack for reading and mining data/sales/etc. and that's why we're all here! If we want to be oldschool - then find a TRUE product that you love and go door to door helping the world - nothing wrong with that and I applaud it! One to one sales will always rule - thus the real estate and high-priced luxuries of life need that - i do it too with my other ventures However this is the online world where anything can happen at anytime and we play on that deregulation - good things happen to those who wait, great things happen overnight - this tool enables a lot of 'overnights'. I almost forgot the most important thing about this campaign - the CBID is going to be 'RICHPIG'. We are exploring PDC and others as well however CB will be our foundation campaign. Thank you! NC.