... negative weight bonus?

Discussion in 'Co-op Advertising Network' started by disgust, Sep 21, 2004.

  1. disgust

    disgust Guest

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    #21
    I've signed up with sites like that, they seem to get a weight of 2.. of course, though, that increases when more pages are indexed
     
    disgust, Sep 22, 2004 IP
  2. nadlay

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    #22
    Ok, I'll probably sign it up as is then. I was going to wait until a few more pages were indexed first.
     
    nadlay, Sep 22, 2004 IP
  3. thebassman

    thebassman Asleep at the Keyboard

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    #23
    I don't want to sound harsh, but don't you think it needs to be addressed/changed? I'd feel bad about taking away weight from people I refer... :(
     
    thebassman, Sep 23, 2004 IP
  4. Nitin M

    Nitin M White/Gray/Black Hat

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    #24
    throwing my $.02 in the mix ...

    I also really dislike how the referral bonus is subtracted from the refered account. I can't imagine clicking a link to buy something online, for example, and getting charged MORE because I went through the affiliate link. And, not only does it seem odd to punish the new account, it also seems that is a huge incentive for anyone that was referred to create a new account and move their domain to the new account to recoup the 10% penalty.

    I don't understand why there has to be a matching reduction in weight to offset the weight bonus.

    Why can't it just be that the referring account gets the 10% bonus and noone pays a penalty --- not the referred account and not the network.

    Yeah, I'm not a math moron and I know that the mathematical effect of this is that a tiny fraction of weight is reduced from each network member. BUT, the entire weighting system is not a zero-sum equation anyway. The weight is only used to determine probablity of displaying your links so giving a slight edge to accounts based on their referrals seems to make sense and shouldn't require such a large penalty for the referred account.

    A final thought ... there are caps on the weights for each site and I know I have sites that would otherwise blow through the cap and I know many other members have large sites in the same situation... so... it would seem there is already excess weighting that is unaccounted for. My point with that is just that I don't think the numbers have to add up exactly for it to still be "fair".
     
    Nitin M, Sep 24, 2004 IP
  5. thebassman

    thebassman Asleep at the Keyboard

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    #25
    Yeah, exactly. :D
     
    thebassman, Sep 24, 2004 IP
  6. nadlay

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    #26
    I agree.

    There have been a couple of people I have refered to the network, and I told them to go direct.

    I did this because I felt that I would be stealing from them by having them use my referral number, and thus have their weight reduced.
     
    nadlay, Sep 27, 2004 IP
  7. thebassman

    thebassman Asleep at the Keyboard

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    #27
    Yeah, and therefore I think this would be a good thing to be addressed in future builds/version of the network...
     
    thebassman, Sep 27, 2004 IP
  8. GuyFromChicago

    GuyFromChicago Permanent Peon

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    #28
    I'll take the opposite side of the line here…I'm fine with how referral weight is distributed.

    It's really no different than a salesman who earns commission - the customer is paying that salesperson's commission as part of the deal. The salesman brought the product/service in question to the customer's attention and deserves a little compensation for their efforts.

    No different here. You (the affiliate) is telling someone about the network…without you they may never find out about it at all. If given a choice of not knowing about it at all, or giving up some of my weight as a way of saying "thanks" to the person who turned me on to the network, I'll give up some of my weight any day.

    I already did as a matter of fact, I signed up both my accounts under the person who originally told me about thew program vs. signing up under myself or going direct.

    Just my 2 cents.
     
    GuyFromChicago, Sep 28, 2004 IP
  9. disgust

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    #29
    I also don't think it's a huge deal- it's not like people would really notice it, anyway.
     
    disgust, Sep 28, 2004 IP
  10. digitalpoint

    digitalpoint Overlord of no one Staff

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    #30
    The biggest issue for me is that it allows for people to generate free weight with their own sites. If there was a way to keep people from referring their own sites, then that would be fine, but I don't know of a way to prevent that.
     
    digitalpoint, Sep 28, 2004 IP
  11. thebassman

    thebassman Asleep at the Keyboard

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    #31
    Hmmm... well, if people could only sign up with 1 account, that would lessen it, I guess... (kinda like google adsense)...? and have all their site under 1 account...?
     
    thebassman, Sep 28, 2004 IP
  12. lorien1973

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    #32
    What is a good base weight? I signed up the other day and got a base weight of 22,500. I put the ads on my empty advertising slots on the interior pages in some decent locations. Other than referrals, is there other ways to increase the weight?

    It looks like my ads got approved, so I assume I'm in rotation now; is there a way to find out how many times (sites) the ad is active?
     
    lorien1973, Sep 29, 2004 IP
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    chachi The other Jason

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    #33
    uh, that is good. Most decent sites (size and PR) probably are in the 5k to 10k range, with the vast majority of sites probably being much less than that.
     
    chachi, Sep 29, 2004 IP
  14. disgust

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    #34
    that's a very nice weight. the easiest way to increase weight is to refer people or add the coop ad network ads to other sites
     
    disgust, Sep 29, 2004 IP
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    GuyFromChicago Permanent Peon

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    #35
    You can also add more pages to your exisitng site. More pages = higher weight until you hit the page weight cap.
     
    GuyFromChicago, Sep 29, 2004 IP
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    #36
    I think someone here got credit for me joining. I clicked over from SEO chat from someone's link

    I added the link to every page on my site (well, where it was easy to do, I'm pretty lazy). the interior pages run ads in 2 spots - my empty ad slots. Top left and page middle. Home page, just top right. If my yahoo stores would let me run php scripts, i'd have them on more of my sites. I think its a great concept. I'll be interested to see if it helps my SERPs.

    How many ads do some of you run? I only made 4 - 1 for each of my sites.
     
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  17. MammaRose

    MammaRose Banned

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    #37

    How was this fixed? I have a negative weight referral bonus.

    Did shawn have to look at it?
     
    MammaRose, Jan 18, 2008 IP