Needed - Opinion of SEO Guru

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by rvdukc, Oct 7, 2008.

  1. #1
    Hi

    I'm currentley working on a website for the past 3 months

    All started well - straight in on page 1 for a relativley uncompetative phrase (30,000 matches).

    It then plummited off the face of the earth, but re-appeared on page 7 for a few weeks

    It went down to page 9, before back on page 7 and then page 5 yesterday.

    It is now on page 16?! For the phrase.

    Out of the 30+ pages on the sitemap, less than 20 are indexed, all content is unique.

    I'm looking for advice, but don't want to add the url on here, so if anybody willing to take a look, or offer advice, I'll gladly PM the url.

    many thanks
     
    rvdukc, Oct 7, 2008 IP
  2. vansterdam

    vansterdam Notable Member

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    #2
    Rankings of new sites can fluctuate a lot. Work at getting more quality backlinks and keep adding more content. In time your rankings should settle down.
     
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  3. internetmarketingiq

    internetmarketingiq Well-Known Member

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    #3
    Organic rank for a single phrase is entirely meaningless unless you appear in the top 5 results. Most people don't even bother clicking the links on the first 10. They select only a few of those, then if they do not find what hey want they research again.

    The last number I read from a source I deem reliable quoted 11% will view the second page of a search result.

    So STOP worrying about anything that is not Top 5. There are so few spots in the real money slots of Organic Search.

    Figure out how to get traffic from OTHER sources.

    It doesn't matter where they come from as long as they are your target, and you know what to do with them when they hit your site.
     
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  4. njseo

    njseo Peon

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    There are so many reasons why this could be happening. It definitely needs to be analyzed. You also sound like you don't completely know what are you doing when it comes to seo. Let an expert handle this so that your website does not get sandboxed - when it gets sandboxed you're finished.
     
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    snowbird Notable Member

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    Post your URL and maybe some people can give you specific info...
     
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    catanich Peon

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    Could the site be in the google "sand box" still?
     
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  7. rvdukc

    rvdukc Guest

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    Hi

    It is possible that it is "sandboxed" to a certain extent, or atleast the links have been dampened/not counted as it's only really three months old.

    Don't really want to post the url on here for personal reasons...have had a PM offering to take a look, will post any findings/observations as they may be useful for others when the thread is archived!
     
    rvdukc, Oct 7, 2008 IP
  8. rvdukc

    rvdukc Guest

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    I've sent you an e-mail to the address you provided in your PM, I was unable to send you one back? :)
     
    rvdukc, Oct 7, 2008 IP
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    snowbird Notable Member

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    #9
    In the event you do not want to post your URL....

    1. See where your site ranks in Google for: allinanchor:keyword
    If the rank is comparatively close for allinanchor and your listing, that is normal in many cases.

    2. Look for duplicate content. For example, non www and www both indexed in Google. Also exampledomain.com and exampledomain.com/index.php.

    IMO the sandbox does not exist. Google has many datacenters. When a newer site is launched and promoted, its ranks will not stabilize until all the datacenters are updated. Get some quality links, and your ranks will improve and stabilize.

    Good luck with your site. :)
     
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  10. sultanofseo

    sultanofseo Notable Member

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    thats normal for site that new. just keep building links and over time your ranking will be more stabilized. what you need is a solid base
     
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  11. rvdukc

    rvdukc Guest

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    thanks for the response

    the truth is though the site isn't exactley new, it's three months old now, and was originally highly ranked, and moved back up onto page 5, before now being on page 16? Perhaps its a down-before-an up, but im beginning to think there is more to it?
     
    rvdukc, Oct 8, 2008 IP
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    #12
    more content and article submissions, it'll get back there
     
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    work hard and continously, that is the key for success in the seo
     
    palme, Oct 9, 2008 IP
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    check back links, some of the sites might be "punished" during the last update
     
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    rvdukc Guest

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    I've checked those, the links have dropped by about 10 (reverted back to the amount they had been before the update). Article and directory work has been the bulk (few blogposts to - but those are still showing up in the webmaster tools). So I'm not too sure if that is related

    I've done the following

    - Changed some of the names of the links to my keyphrases (e.g instead of "blue jam" changing to "buy blue jam")

    - removed reference to links to /index.htm and instead pointed those to the domain name. Removed the /index.htm from google in the webmaster tools and blocked it in robots.txt

    - resubmitted site map

    Guess now I have to wait? Any other suggestions?
     
    rvdukc, Oct 10, 2008 IP
  16. marco786

    marco786 Banned

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    you can PM me for your help, i can solve it definitely....
    thank you
     
    marco786, Oct 10, 2008 IP