Need help with a Cease and Desist for a domain name

Discussion in 'Legal Issues' started by Korrupt, Apr 28, 2008.

  1. #1
    Even though i think it is a fake one, i still dont want to take any chances. But the thing that concerns me is that i got the email on an gmail account which is not even linked to my name.com account(from where it was purchased) and there is no way they could have known that it was linked to the gmail account. Also i have got no emails on my main account(linked to the name.com account)
    Here's the email
     
    Korrupt, Apr 28, 2008 IP
  2. tattoobit

    tattoobit Peon

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    It is obviously a fake as he is trying to steal the domain vs. just asking you to discontinue it's use.
     
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  3. Korrupt

    Korrupt Well-Known Member

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    nah that's real, i verified
    w/e the case is, i wont give him the domains for free since they dont grow on trees
     
    Korrupt, Apr 28, 2008 IP
  4. Dave Zan

    Dave Zan Well-Known Member

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    #4
    Then I guess you're prepared to lose them anyway should the mark holder file
    a dispute or so? While I haven't seen any just yet, there's always a first time.

    Speaking of proxify:

    http://forums.digitalpoint.com/search.php?searchid=11932517

    It's as real as real can be.

    So...why did you register those domain names, considering one of them bears
    not one but two trademarks?
     
    Dave Zan, Apr 28, 2008 IP
  5. Korrupt

    Korrupt Well-Known Member

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    if i knew that they were trademarked then i wouldnt have registered. Not that i am afraid of lawyers etc.(my dad's a lawyer too) but only that its just too troublesome.
    and yea ive read those topics before i posted here
     
    Korrupt, Apr 28, 2008 IP
  6. wisdomtool

    wisdomtool Moderator Staff

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    Do a search, I think it was mentioned before same company and similar type of cases in DP.
     
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    glasglow Active Member

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    They can't claim a domain in that way. Look up allinurl:*nike and see how many sites you can find using the term nike.. If it were a serious offense and approachable I'm sure nike would wipe out half of those sites.
     
    glasglow, Apr 28, 2008 IP
  8. Dave Zan

    Dave Zan Well-Known Member

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    Maybe they are even as we post, but it's just not reported online as often as
    others expect. Not all are caught, but those who do tend to pay a high price.

    Unique words not found in any generally-accepted dictionary tend to have an
    even greater trademark protection than common words not used descriptively
    in commerce. Proxify and Orkut aren't commonly descriptive words...yet.

    In any case, it's up to each and every one of you. You know the risks, but it
    doesn't mean you'll necessarily gain sympathy if that's what you're after.
     
    Dave Zan, Apr 28, 2008 IP
  9. Korrupt

    Korrupt Well-Known Member

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    nah im not after sympathy, my dad's a lawyer too and since he is on a trip currently i cant take his advice either
    w/e the case is im not ready to give up the domains to any bully who tries to scare me...
    btw i will keep posting the emails that he will send here
    http://www.proxifynet.com/
     
    Korrupt, Apr 28, 2008 IP
  10. mjewel

    mjewel Prominent Member

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    #10
    This is a pretty clear case of trademark infringement. If they sue you, you can be forced to pay damages plus treble their legal fees. Get advice from an intellectual property rights attorney - I'll bet they advise you to turn over the domains immediately. You have the burden of checking for existing trademarks before you register a domain. Saying you didn't know isn't a legal defense.
     
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    DeluxeEdition Active Member

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    My question is why are they sending you emails and not letters?

    When I stepped on Zippo Lighters toes for a domain I owned I got a certified letter from them.
     
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  12. solidstate

    solidstate Well-Known Member

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    Korrupt, Totally fake He is just a f**king scammer. who actually collects domain, so he can play monopoly over the domains related to proxify. If u leave is India thn dont worry about that, they wont get u. also my advice change the whois information to some other name and address, email on different country. Give the email of some really big company like any tv network address (zeetv@zee.com) but must be valid so that they cant ever trace u. if that guy email u tell him that u sold that domain to some big company. try to contact with them.

    Hope this will help u.

    Regards,
    TA
     
    solidstate, Apr 28, 2008 IP
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    mjewel Prominent Member

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    Really stupid advice.... a WIPO action can take a domain regardless of where you live. Yeah, tell them you sold the domain to company right after they contacted you. Geez, what a stupid story.


     
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    solidstate Well-Known Member

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  15. Korrupt

    Korrupt Well-Known Member

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    #15
    thanks for your help guys :)
    appreciate it
    I'd rather not use the domains than hand them over to some stupid jerk who is only in for free domains
    i dunno but its possible to just send a C&D via a email, i confirmed it
    thanks, that helped. btw i suggest you do not use the word f**king over here as it may get you an infraction :D
     
    Korrupt, Apr 28, 2008 IP
  16. Dave Zan

    Dave Zan Well-Known Member

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    #16
    It's not just possible, but definitely happens. :)

    What might shock some of you folks is that sending C&Ds are not required to
    resolve a potential domain-trademark infringement dispute. They can outright
    file an administrative proceeding or suit if they believe it'll produce the results
    they want.

    It may cost money, but it's the principle for some.
     
    Dave Zan, Apr 28, 2008 IP
  17. Korrupt

    Korrupt Well-Known Member

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    all that guy wants are free domain names. he searches for any domains souding similar to proxify and has the potential to generate good traffic and thus tries to take them for free and converting it to his own proxy site.
    He also told me that the fastest way and the one with the least hassle is that I trasnfer the domains over to him, whereas there should be NO problem if i just stop using them. That proves that he is just a bully/jerk/******(put whatever you want here) who just wants free domains
     
    Korrupt, Apr 29, 2008 IP
  18. solidstate

    solidstate Well-Known Member

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    Exactly, Thats what is true. He just wants to grow his proxy business. thats all.
     
    solidstate, Apr 29, 2008 IP
  19. Dave Zan

    Dave Zan Well-Known Member

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    That's one way to view it. Another way to view it is he's protecting his mark,
    which is every mark holder's unenviable responsibility.

    Feel free to ask your lawyer-dad on intellectual property, or ask any friend of
    his who's really familiar with trademarks. You might be surprised.

    Whether people like or not, UpsideOut has proof of a trademark for the word
    proxify:

    As long as it's there, coupled with the word itself not being descriptive for an
    online service "providing anonymous transmission and delivery of information
    over global computer networks", registering a domain name with the word that
    looks and/or sounds like their mark is a practical no-no.

    And is there anything wrong with that, considering he's spent time, money, &
    effort to grow that business? Why let others do something that might confuse
    your intended market with their service, which is what trademarks aim to stop
    in the first place?

    I realize some of you folks don't like this, which is nothing new since people do
    stuff others don't like every other day. But there are (almost) clear laws that
    affect what one can and can't do, in this case being able to use any domain
    name that's potentially infringing someone's trademark.

    Just as the mark holder doesn't necessarily have absolute use over their mark
    for any and/or all other uses, the registrant doesn't necessarily have absolute
    use over their domain name for any and/or all other topics.
     
    Dave Zan, Apr 29, 2008 IP
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    PROXIFY as mark? there is no way he can claim proxify not to be used in any domain. Nothing to worry about
     
    koahost, May 7, 2008 IP