Nazi's are against Muslims and Jews, So why do muslims deny the holocost ?!

So now you are saying Islam as a whole is responsible for all that? post some more links, It's quite fun watching you expose your self as a Muslim hating racist.

Do you even know any Muslims? Or don't those kinds dare venture in to your neck of the woods?

 

I know it's difficult, buddy. Don't try too hard, you might throw an aneurysm.

"Muslim" is a follower of a religion, by definition, not a member of a nation-state. Your idiocy doesn't rise to the level of sophistry, which requres some measure of sophistication.

The question goes to how much support among muslims did nazism enjoy; plain and simple. The original poster correctly stated that it seems odd, given the nazi racialist ethos. But the historical fact is that, by example in the above instance, these muslims, drawn from Bosnia, were among the most ideologically rigorous nazis. Fact.

 

Uh, Where did I say that?

Or, is that another one of your lies?

So offended by the truth, you take issue with the messenger. Again

Hurry up stockboy, I don't have all day for your next lie to cover up your love for anyone who hates Jews.

 

the Nazis had muslim allies in WWII.

 

You constantly claim "Islam" as being responsible for these atrocities which you mention. If that isn't what you mean, Use other words. You could say a "section of Islam", "fundamental Islam" or "extremist Islam".

But to say things like Islam held the holocaust deniers convention is plain bigoted and untrue.

"Islam" is no more responsible for the holocaust deniers convention than Christianity is for the white supremacy movement.

 

So you just posted something in response to his question without any base, right?
When there is a strong majority of 1 religion in a country then that country is classified also by that religion. For example Iraq, Iraq, Pakistan are Islamic countries because the majority of people living in those countries are, guess what, Muslims. I know these are probably difficult concepts for you but if you don't listen to your own advise and instead try to use your brain then may be you get it.

 

There it is.

 

That wasn't an attempt to clear yourself, was it? Only it kinda backed up exactly what i was saying.

 

There's nothing to clear. I stand behind that statement and the supporting information I've presented.

You've previously admitted to supporting terrorists causes, including Hamas. Hamas' goal, being to wipe out the Jews of Israel.

It stands to chance that you are going to be upset with any truth dealing with Jews. All you are doing here is reaffirming that position.

 

Listen to your own advice, brother. Advise is a verb. Advice is not. Until you get the rudiments of school-grade grammar, it is not going to get far, brother. Ignored.

Others: the original poster posited the following:

I posted some information to show that, in fact, there was a historical link between the designs of the most ideologically committed of nazis, the S.S., and at least one broad, geographically concentrated of committed muslims, the aforementioned S.S. Handschar ("scimitar") division. Everyone is free to draw their own conclusions, of course. Just a piece of history.

 

LOL.

Still continuing with your intellectual act of I am not a bigot, just supply historical facts to confirm bigot's views.

I have nothing against your post, I can also add that Nazi Germany was very popular in the middle east among the nationalistic groups because of their opposition to England. In fact there was even Jewish group that wanted to work with with Nazi Germany against England.
I am just against you supplying ammunitions to bigots in disguise of intellectual honesty.

 

That Islam as a whole is responsible for these incidents you mention?

I'm just trying to fully understand your position. It's unclear to me at present what you believe. Now, I could look at what you say and come to the conclusion that you are a Muslim hater as evidence suggests, But I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt because, Let's face it, In this day and age for someone to say a whole religion is responsible for the actions of a few is as bigoted as making any other statement which lumps a whole religion or race in with the actions of a few.

So if you are standing by your statement, Could you clarify your position.

 

Nazis KILLED so many Gypsies, SLAVS (Christians) and Jews.

People take HITLER OUT OF CONTEXT.

HITLER IS A PRODUCT OF JEWISH HATING CHRISTIANS WHO ELECTED HIM. THEN, OTHER JEWISH HATING CHRISTIANS IN EUROPE AND AMERICA DIDN'T DO ANYTHING TO STOP THE KILLING OF GYPSIES, SLAVS AND JEWS. MANY REFUGEES ARE SENT BACK OR NOT ACCEPTED IN ENGLAND OR AMERICA.

ONLY REASON, ALL THE OTHER COUNTRIES GOT INTO WAR WAS NOT BECAUSE TRYING TO PREVENT THE KILLING OF GYPSIES, SLAVS AND JEWS, BUT THEIR COUNTRY WAS THE TARGET.

RUSSIANS PAID MIGHTY PRICE FOR WII ON TWO FRONTS, GERMANS AND JAPANESE.

DO NOT TAKE HITLER OUT OF CONTEXT

PS: Also at current time, substitute JEWS for "ISLAM". Many ISLAM hating fan boys can pretty much fit in the past (NAZIS, common thing they have is HATRED for people they never had contact with) or the present.

 

Never said such. That's three times you've lied about it. I've not used the qualifiers you are presenting.

That's not the impression your posts leave in the least bit. You've previously admitted to supporting terrorists causes, including Hamas. Hamas' goal, being to wipe out the Jews of Israel. Now that genocide of Jews is brought up and some of those responsible, you take no issue with that, but rather the messenger. Why is that?

What is the official name of Iran? This is an important question. Let me know what you find.

 

My post was not strawman, I was mearly saying you cant judge an entire religion based on one mans actions no matter how much power he has.

Also WWII was not a religious war, Hitler didnt kill jews because they followed judaism he killed them and everyone else because they either didnt fit into his vision of a superior aryan nation. Just because a nation fought on the same side of germany during world war II does not make them Nazis or Jew-haters. The reason for fighting varies by nation but the main reason most nations allied with germany was either to save themselves from being conquered or join the bandwagon of land grabbing.

 

Indeed, this is very much a stawman argument. The every popular "all card."

Let's review. From your post:

No one said "all" believe anything.

Let's visit wiki:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man

And now, once more, for good measure:

No one suggested such.

 

GTech you clearly stated that "Islam" held the holocaust denial conference.
It's written up there for everyone to see. Now i don't know if this is due to your limited command of the English language, Or something else, But it seems to suggest that you think that, You know, "Islam", The religion as a whole, Is in some way responsible for the holocaust denial conference.

You said "Islam". If you had said "some muslims", Or even "muslims" you may have a point. But "islam" is all muslims. It's the difference between "christians" and "christianity". For instance, "christians" are responsible for abortion clinic bombings, "christianity" isn't.

I think you mean the former name, Which i believe was Persia (or the Persian empire). Though i don't see what your point is, And i suspect you don't either.

 

Apparently you still cannot grasp this concept. I continue to say I support that statement. But then you've also admitted you support terrorist group causes, such as Hamas, which is eliminating Jews. The same cause of ahmadinejad. I don't mind if you take issue with what I said. I find it rather funny that you still cannot grasp it.

I used no denominator at all. I didn't say "some," "none," "all". And yet we still see what you take issue with, and killing Jews is most certainly not it.

It's not possible for you to think. That's why I'm doing it for you. The official name is the "Islamic Republic of Iran."

Remind me again, what's the first word in the "official" name?

...held in Iran by ________? Come on, you know the word

 

Hardly.



All islamists are muslims; but not all muslims are islamists.

 

LOL!
Two people don't believe in the holocaust and guess what, none of them is a Muslim!
And all Muslims have denied the holocaust. I guess this tells us something.
Neither Hitler is a representative of Christianity, nor the Muslims that supported him are representatives of Islam.