Hi everyone... I am trying to follow this tutorial on list apart: http://www.alistapart.com/articles/hybrid/ in order to create a very simple navigation with a horizontal main bar containing categories, and a sub-categories list that is displayed when a category is hovered on. Really straight forward so far. The problem is I cant get the sub-categories to float under the main ones, and instead they shift the main categories to the left when they are shown. here is my css code: #nav li { /*float the main list items*/ float: left; display: block; padding-right: 5px; } #nav li.off ul, #nav li.on ul { /*put the subnavs below and hide them all*/ display: none; height: 60px; } #nav li.on ul { /*display active subnav list*/ display: block; } #nav li.on ul a, #nav li.off ul a { /*ie doesn't inherit the float*/ border: 0; width: auto; } #nav li.off:hover ul { /* display the other topics when their parent is hovered */ display: block; z-index: 6000; } Code (markup): and here is my html: <span style="float: left">Categories: </span> <ul id="nav"> <li class="off"> "Music" <ul> <li>all</li> <li>"Electronic"</li> </ul> </li> <li class="off"> "PC Games" </li> <li class="off"> "Xbox 360" </li> </ul> HTML: This is not how it's really stylized at my end, but the problem is the same and this is the most basic css involoved. I have tried using position: relative on the elements but it doesn't work - only absolute positioning gets over the problem and I can't use it for various reasons. Any ideas would be much appreciated! Ehud