National ID Card

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Josh Inno, Mar 16, 2007.

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    Coming in 2008, anyone who wishes to use government regulated transportation such as railroad, bus, or aeroplane will be required to use a national ID card. This card must be machine readable. If an RF chip is used, this can directly lead to identity theft and tracking by anyone who creates a portable RF reciever capable of receiving the information.

    These cards will be issued by the DMV of any given participating states in place of their normal drivers liscence. A state which does not participate must place "Not valid for federal purposes" on their license.

    These provisions were added as a non-debated amendment to a hurricane relief effort bill, and shoved through that way.

    Many states have already passed objection measures, meaning that their representatives must fight for the removal of this bill in congress, or face possible recall for an emergency recall election. Others have already specifically drafted regulations saying that they will not be participating in this supposedly voluntary program.

    In addition, only $100 million was allocated from the federal budget to pay for these changes, while the current estimated cost is $11 billion.

    All IDs that are issued under this program must have a much higher level of documentation provided, and this documentation must be kept in a database accessible by all other participating DMVs. This is a huge opening for identity theft and information tampering as well. Huge amount of existing data is incorrect, and is already hard to correct. Any mistakes (or malicious changes) in this database will be even more damaging.

    Pluss there are the issues of tracking of travel, and restriction of travel if one does not have this particular piece of federal ID, which is a further restriction of our already heavily restricted freedoms.

    I am honestly rather shocked that no one has posted anything on this subject on the forum.

    The first bits of information I gained on this subject were with a conversation with my step-father, but since then I've done a bit more research.
    you can follow some more links below for more info.

    Epic on National ID cards
    ALCU on National ID cards
    PC world on National ID cards
    CNN on National ID cards
    Time on National ID cards
    Fox news on National ID cards
     
    Josh Inno, Mar 16, 2007 IP
  2. DPH

    DPH Peon

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    This is a waste of money, infringement upon states rights, and it enables more identity theft.

    More states should be against this, I don't understand why they are so complacent.
     
    DPH, Mar 16, 2007 IP
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    lorien1973 Notable Member

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    What's the point of having states if everyone thinks washington is supposed to the nanny?
     
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  4. Josh Inno

    Josh Inno Guest

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    Well a lot of states have already rejected it and more are working on it, but some have actually caved already, and I have no idea why.

    Oh, and by the way, a compliant ID would also be needed to open any bank acount.
     
    Josh Inno, Mar 19, 2007 IP
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    gworld Prominent Member

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    USA is trying to establish a police state in the rest of the world, so why should Americans be exempt from that? :rolleyes: ;)
     
    gworld, Mar 19, 2007 IP
  6. Josh Inno

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    No. The USA is not attempting to establish a police state in the rest of the world. It may seem like that, but it is not the case.

    BUSH on the other hand may be. Or he may not be. I'm trying very hard to reserve judgment until I do more research. But the more I do, the less favorably I look upon bush.
     
    Josh Inno, Mar 20, 2007 IP