Nasa admits global warming data is flawed...

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  1. it career

    it career Notable Member

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    #61
    After few years, NASA will discover an astonishing fact that increasing pollution actually makes life more and more healthy, so cut down as many trees as you want, convert agricultural land to steel industries .
     
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  2. The Webmaster

    The Webmaster IdeasOfOne

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    #62
    I wasnt talking about US specifically, more on global term.
    Pollution and Global warming havoc is global..

    May be, but EPA saying about fishes in fresh water being harmful to eat doesn't make sense either.
    As I said, If chemicals are above a certain level in water, they are harmful for fishes also, Fishes are more vulnerable to harmful chemicals than human.
    So if the chemicals in fresh water are too much for human, fishes will not survive either.
     
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  3. d16man

    d16man Well-Known Member

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    #63
    I doubt that...it just goes to show that global warming is a myth.
     
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  4. ferret77

    ferret77 Heretic

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    #64
    I don't know if they teach biology in your country, fishes physical characteristics are very different then people, what will poison a person may do nothing to fish, like cigutera poison, fish live fine with it in there system but it could kill you or me
     
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    #65
    Mate, Ciguatera is not caused by pollution.
    It is a type of sea food poisoning caused by the consumption of fish, especially certain tropical reef fish, which contain one or more naturally occurring neurotoxins from the family of ciguatoxins and maititoxins.

    While it can be true that *some* fishes can survive and have bioaccumulated toxins from environment, but then the toxics will have affects on other organisms, that can be noticed.

    I'm not denying that water is polluted, but the level of water pollution is arguable.
    How much of toxic chemicals in water?
     
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  6. tbarr60

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    #66
    Fishing is alive and well in the Great Lakes. I am not big on fishing but I did go on a four hour trip and came back with a picture like this:

    [​IMG]

    They fill that board up to 8 times per day and there's no EPA restrictions or warnings. Take the tin foil off your head and line the grill with it. :D
     
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  7. northpointaiki

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    #67
    Fishing: It isn't quantity, folks - this seems to be in so many ways our national affliction in the United States - the belief that so long as we can manipulate something natural to higher and higher yields, no matter the spinoff effects or costs (in environmental and long-term impact) involved, you're good. You can farm the crap out of whatever you want (just ask your neighborhood big, red, cardboard-flavored tomato). But it doesn't mean you haven't screwed up other things in the process.

    It is the impact of overfishing, as well as mega-farming concerns, that have wreaked disaster on natural fishing species and their patterns worldwide. Swordfish in the former (recovering, due to stringent regulations, in the North Atlantic; still being obliterated everywhere else), for example; farmed salmon, sea bass and other species in the latter. Farmed salmon is a HUGE problem. The concentration of land-based runoffs in coastal fisheries, the introduction of parasitic infestations into wild populations, etc. Absolutely, unequivocally a bad thing.
     
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  8. ferret77

    ferret77 Heretic

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    #68
    duh, thats not commercial harvest, those fish are not sold to restaurants

    http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/322792_lakes07.html

    eating a couple polluted fish in you are not a pregnant mother is not a big deal, many fish advisories say you can eat one meal a month and have you body filter out the toxins
     
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  9. ferret77

    ferret77 Heretic

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    #69
    Swordfish are coming back in the straits of Florida, people catch them here pretty regularly, they have been working on farming cobia in deep water cages, it will eliminate the pollution problems of farms they have now, but I don't think they are doing it in the US yet
     
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  10. d16man

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    #70
    Florida is in the US....or am I misunderstanding your post??
     
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  11. PalSys

    PalSys palsys.io

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    #71
    You misunderstood his post. He is saying that, while swordfish are slowly returning the waters off of the Florida coast, they are not yet farming them in the way that they do in the country he comes from.
     
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    #72

    Man how short is it possible to think. Do you really think that NASA is the only ones that measure global warming ???
    Oh yes, I forgot, they are the masters because its a USA state funded company.
     
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  13. PalSys

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    #73
    Another excellent point. Accredited scientists from all over the world have concurred that, while they are not 100% sure of the extent of the damage, humans definitely effect the global warming trend that we are now experiencing. While I do realize that Gore and friends hype it for their benefit, it is what it is.

    I have to say again though: what does it matter? If we all showed our planet and nature itself a little respect, we'd never have to question these things.
     
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    #74
    The most conservative people say that the human made warming is 2% of all warming.
    If you dont think that is much, think about what happens if you get 2% alcohol more than normal in your body.
     
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    #75
    If it's -50F or -40C in Antarctica how much warmer will it be?

    Why argue about theoretical global warming effects? Why not talk about fossil fuel that's being used up and not replenished?
     
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  16. d16man

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    #77
    I just wasn't aware of it, thanks for the link. This is bad news for the SUV haters. :D
     
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  18. ferret77

    ferret77 Heretic

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    #78
    oh a link for world nut daily

    goes along with this ad they have for a company who is searching for oil using the old testament as a guide

    [​IMG]

    lol

    [​IMG]

    from the article

    so wait now the earth is just filled with oil and its not from organic matter?
     
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    #79
    Its interesting because its interesting to see how nuts some people are.
    Ok, stupid articles are made by stupid people. We all know where oil come from, that Chris Bennett must be total ignorant since he obviously did not bother to read any science at all. But what do you expect from people that believe that the earth is 6000 years old.
    d16man, how old is the earth?
     
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  20. PalSys

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    #80
    That's an interesting theory (I fervently hope it's not true), but it's far from proven. You can't just running around citing that as fact.
     
    PalSys, Aug 19, 2007 IP