[n00b alert :P] I'm confused!

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by mutasim, Dec 25, 2006.

  1. #1
    Hey guys, I'm new to DP so firstly Hi everyone...

    OK, I have a few questions that :confused: me

    Firstly, if my site has hundreds of PR 0 links coming to it. Will that increase its PR ??

    and

    If becoming linked by a high PR domain helps increase you PR..
    - If i had 100 domains, a few being a PR6 domain and i linked all hundred to each domain (so each domain would have 99 links) would the PR's of the domains increase ??

    Thanks guys,

    - Mutasim
     
    mutasim, Dec 25, 2006 IP
  2. nocookies

    nocookies Peon

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    It's hard to tell. Maybe slightly. It might even hurt your PR if the links are irrelevant.

    I guess not. You'll need more than a few with PR6 to do that. I believe that have too few sites with PR6 will result in lowering the PR of the ones with PR6, rather than increasing the PR of those with PR0. AFAIK, Google does some kind of weighted average.
     
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    arnold Active Member

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    google is more smarter... it checks the ip address and links should be relevant to the theme of website
     
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    mutasim Active Member

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    thanks guys...

    so if I wanted a domain to increase in PR - what are the few things that will help me to get that?? Just links from high PR domains (which are hosting on different site, yet are about similiar topics)?

    Thanks
     
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  5. nocookies

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    Yes. Links from high PR domains, linking to your site from relevant pages, with descriptive anchor text.

    Some experimentation I did showed that links that are embedded in the content (way of a blog post) have much more contribution than isolated links such as on sidebars.
     
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  6. Icheb

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    So you are saying I can kill every competitor's PR with a little bit of linking? Did you use your brain before you posted?

    Now, how did you remove all other relevant factors so you could pinpoint what exactly is causing it? I'd really like to know that, since it's almost impossible.
     
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    If google suspects that you set up artificially hundreds of links to your site they may penalize the site. I've seen sites that were even disappeared from the index because they got many backlinks too fast. I'm not sure if you can fight an established site PR using this technique.

    Let's keep the discussion here in the professional level and not in the personal level. Professionals may have disagreements. Let's try to maintain an educational atmosphere in this forum.

    I saw that my sites who got links from blog posts got much better PR than those who did not get such links, with other characteristics more or less the same. It's definitely not science - but my results suggested that. After all, it makes sense. If people consider your content interesting enough for their blog readers - it must be valuable. Probably much better than a paid link on some sidebar.

    Wishes,
    Nadav
     
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  8. Pedro Monteiro

    Pedro Monteiro Well-Known Member

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    I am sorry, but that is completely unjustified. Insults don't really constitute a basis of a good argument. I must say however that I agree that whilst certain inbound links may not help your site in any way, there is no way that they can hurt you.

    When/if Google suspects you are buying links, what they might do is prevent those directories that are selling links from passing on link love.
     
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  9. mutasim

    mutasim Active Member

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    what about aviva directory?
     
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    Pedro Monteiro Well-Known Member

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    Same issue mutasim. If you submit your site to the proper directory you might get some link love, but it is always a shot in the dark, as Google might prevent them from passing on PR any time, thus making your investment useless.
     
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    Hundreds of links won't make a difference, otherwise big marketing campaigns which promote new domains would be doomed. If you had however pointed out that using a reciprocal linking structure is bad, especially with hundreds of links, then there would have been something that we can agree upon.

    And as for your other point, you yourself say it's not scientific, which makes it useless. Just hoping that no other factor contributed to something doesn't mean your experiment was successful.
     
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