Myth:You must have “relevant” links in the same niche as your website

Discussion in 'Link Development' started by pro.seods, Jul 1, 2009.

  1. #1
    You must have “relevant” links in the same niche as
    your website or they don't count or you will get penalized in some way
    by Google.


    That is another myth that gets passed around a lot. Sure, it's good to have
    relevant links and Google recommends it, but links that are not "relevant"
    also count.

    The Drudge Report was put on the "map" the day he broke the news that
    President Clinton was having an...er, indiscretion with a young intern named
    Monica Lewinsky. THOUSANDS (maybe even HUNDREDS of thousands)
    of sites linked to him that day. Many of them were not in his "niche".
    A couple of months ago, I challenged my Physical Therapist (I have an old
    ankle injury) that I could get him on Page One of Google for his keywords.
    He was at the bottom of Page 6. I did his links one night and then went to
    bed. The next day I got up and checked and he was NUMBER ONE in
    Google for ALL his keywords. Not one of the sites I added his link to was
    "relevant" for Physical Therapy or even Health and Wellness. Yet they still
    worked that well that fast.

    If you leave out great sites because they are not "relevant" to your niche,
    you are leaving a lot of money on the table. I'd use them all. :)

    So, you can't just have niche related links as backlinks. You need all of them.
     
    pro.seods, Jul 1, 2009 IP
  2. hmansfield

    hmansfield Guest

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    I am with you. I totally believe that, and always have.
     
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  3. contentboss

    contentboss Peon

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    yes, agree. Search engines aren't much good at detecting 'intent' yet... although they are very good at determining 'unique'...
     
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  4. pro.seods

    pro.seods Peon

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    Good to hear back from you guyzzz..Last time I posted this myth I was taken bu surprise by a handful of guyz here on forum.

    Cheers
     
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  5. zidit

    zidit Active Member

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    Totally agree wuith you
     
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    w3bmaster Notable Member

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    My say is any link can help and when i can get a link i get it ...
     
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    Scripter Peon

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    #7
    I'd say it's partly true: It's not about relevancy only, but if two sites have the same number of links with similar strength and one has all of them on it's topic and the other one has random ones "only", the one with the relevant ones will always outrank the other.

    Basically, the more relevant your links are, the less links are needed for the same effect. This doesn't mean that someone throwing a huge ammount of irrelevant links on a site can't outrank you, but it makes things easier and link building more effective.
     
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  8. larik2210

    larik2210 Banned

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    Irrelevant l;inks also help you rank higher ................
     
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  9. atniz

    atniz Well-Known Member

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    I agree with you too. I've done some link building with some keywords as well and it pops up on main page within few days time. All it matters is that the page's PR and the number of outgoing links that particular page is having and for google, it must be dofollow. The higher PR pages with less number of outgoing links are better.
     
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    meknassi Well-Known Member

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    #10
    I do believe "relevant" links help.
    But all links are counted.


    so I totally agree with you
     
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  11. pro.seods

    pro.seods Peon

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    Now for instance Check this regional site of mine: http://www.bollykings.com/

    If you search google with the following keywords:

    Latest hindi movies - 22,300,000
    latest hindi movie reviews - 17,200,000
    lastest hindi music - 15,400,000

    The site comes on first page for both yahoo and google!

    And the biggest factor is that I have done link building on mostly non-niche blogs and sites.

    So, here's an example that links from each blog count and link building on non-niche sites are very useful.
     
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  12. thefandango

    thefandango Active Member

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    Why would Matt Cutts from Google spend half his life saying relevant links carry more weight if it is not true? Not difficult for Google to look at a sites content then follow a link and see if the same keywords/terms are evident is it?
     
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  13. JonRhodesUK

    JonRhodesUK Active Member Affiliate Manager

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    Yes, I wouldn't mind a link off the BBC or CNN to any of my sites, and none of them are news related!!
     
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    I'd have to reluctantly agree.

    My comments at several blogs (unrelated to my niche), are just as powerful as those "Relevant links" that I've gotten.

    (Although -- I was really jazzed to see the word "Wedding" three times in a recent Atniz.com posting, it was one of those rare moments when I was posting my link into "relevant content")
     
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  15. printmatt

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    It is always best to have backlinks related to your niche... but creating backlinks not related to your niche does not hurt either.
     
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    Has anyone ever specified what "relevant" means? What is relevant for my wife's Cupcakes Delivered site www.buycake.co.uk? Cupcakes, yes, how about cakes? Recipes? The band Cake? Has anyone done any tests?
     
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    mechanix Well-Known Member

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    From my 3 years of experience, I can safely vouch that the concept of related links is highly overestimated. Related links are so very vital for a new domain/web property as G puts you in it's sites immediately and rankings are much quicker. For all my affiliate products on Goarticles and Associated Content,I make it a point to hit up related links all the while. However, as soon as you establish your site i.e gain PR or have over 100 indexed pages, what really counts is where you get your next link from. Instead of getting related links, what so be atop your agenda is the age of the linking domain, authority power and the number of outgoing links and the quality of sites where those outgoing links link up to. Another extremly critical point is the positioning of your link in these sites.
     
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    dcristo Illustrious Member

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    I agree as well. Although I think the more intelligent the google algo gets, the better it will be able to determine relevance of links. Moreso, you don't just build links for SEO, you do so for relevant traffic, so relevant links always win out in the end if you have a choice.
     
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    Thank you for the great insight!
     
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  20. zandrarogers

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    Thanks for this information, this is really very helpful....
     
    zandrarogers, Jul 3, 2009 IP