Mysterious PR for Unindexed Page

Discussion in 'Google' started by Slincon, Feb 22, 2007.

  1. #1
    A very long time ago, about the time the Internet was just becoming popular (early 90s), I had created a personal website that was hosted on a free webhost (that still continues to live today, although it's basically defunct - but I can still edit it). Well the other day I remembered it, and decided to check out what pr it might have. Low and behold it had a Page Rank of 3 - even though it was NOT indexed by Google, it had no backlinks, and it was not indexed in any other search engine. Since it was hosted on a free website, it did not have it's own domain (its on a subdomain), but it was not receiving any PR or backlinks from the host, and the host's pr is higher then the pr my site has (obviously).

    The only reason I can think of for why my site would have any PR, let alone PR3, is that its probably older then 3/4ths of the sites on the net. But how the hell could Google possibly know that when it's on a subdomain, not a domain, and other sites hosted on this host that were more popular don't have any PR or have a lesser PR even with backlinks and being indexed by Google.

    I'm going to try to re-edit the page, and get rid of the stuff that I'd be ashamed to have (animated gifs, etc), and try to get it indexed by google so that I can atleast use it for backlinks. I'm just wondering is there a way to have a site contribute to PR but not be indexed by google?
     
    Slincon, Feb 22, 2007 IP
  2. Rapesco

    Rapesco Peon

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    It could be that at an earlier time you did have a link going to your site to get it indexed etc and build up PR but then the link that was going to your site got removed and Google hasn't updated the toolbar to change your PR for whatever reason. Thats all i can think of from the top of my head. Have you checked the PR across a few data centers??
     
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  3. Slincon

    Slincon Well-Known Member

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    yea it's PR3 on all data centers, looking up the url will find nothing the page is not in google's database but it definately has a strong PR3. No site has ever linked to it because I never added the site anywhere, also the site is older then Google (older in terms of Google only debuting to the public within the last 10 years, this page is from the early 90s - maybe 1994-5).

    It ranks for http://www.host.com/directory/username but not http://host.com/directory/username. The http://www.host.com/directory has a PR 0 and http://www.host.com has PR 7 - but I mean that's not really adding to my PR or contributing. Anyways I'm trying to get my site indexed by google so that I get some free backlink out of this in the hopes that it doesn't mess up the google pagerank of that page :( .. I doubt anyone can explain this weird phenomenon.
     
    Slincon, Feb 23, 2007 IP
  4. The Stealthy One

    The Stealthy One Well-Known Member Affiliate Manager

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    Are you positive it's not indexed?
     
    The Stealthy One, Feb 23, 2007 IP
  5. Slincon

    Slincon Well-Known Member

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    phew..didn't see that someone replied to this, and yes it wasn't indexed at the time but I recently added it and got it indexed. Google still shows no pages linking to it, no pages discussing it, no other pages mentioning it. But the site itself now appears in the listing after a few months having added it to Google and it only lists one page on the site that has a PR of 0. But the main page has PR of 3 - I've checked it again and it still remains this way across all data centres..it's either a a weird bug that will probably be fixed in the next pr update (since its now indexed) or its some sort of glitch that remains.

    I have no clue what to do with it (obviously I can't sell it since its not a real domain and it has some pvt info on it)..
     
    Slincon, Apr 25, 2007 IP
  6. uzair

    uzair Peon

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    maybe it is because the age of your domain..I think..
     
    uzair, Apr 25, 2007 IP
  7. Slincon

    Slincon Well-Known Member

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    It's very odd since the dir1 doesn't have any PR so this has to be some sort of weird anomaly?

    No backlinks, no mention of it anywhere. The account is quite old but how could Google possibly know that - since theirs no public registrar for accounts on a free/isp web type host.
     
    Slincon, Apr 26, 2007 IP
  8. Janna122003

    Janna122003 Banned

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    Maybe that was the PR of the site before when it was indexed by google. Sometimes google toolbar and other datacenter display unbelievable results. I experience that before my blog was not yet indexed but I can see PR2 in google toolbar and other datacenter.
     
    Janna122003, Apr 27, 2007 IP
  9. Freewebspace

    Freewebspace Notable Member

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    Actually I had a site

    www.action-3.com which was PR2 but was not indexed by Google

    After some time it again got included in the index!

    So your site may temporarily out of Google's index!
     
    Freewebspace, Apr 27, 2007 IP
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    tradeya Notable Member

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    i think juse because the age of the subdomain. also you get a benefit from a high pr domain host. the spider will come to visit often ofcourse it will include your subdomain. ^^
     
    tradeya, Apr 27, 2007 IP
  11. sweetfunny

    sweetfunny Banned

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    http://www.sitehost.com/dir1/myaccount probably showed up on another sites referer stats, who then published these stats online letting Google find you, and credited it with some PR.

    I know in the early days Google's index was a bit flakey and experimental, so my guess is you got dropped out of the index during a dataset rollback or tweak. During the next crawl, no links existed anymore to your page and Google couldn't re-visit to assign a new value.

    One of many "possible" causes.
     
    sweetfunny, Apr 27, 2007 IP
  12. Slincon

    Slincon Well-Known Member

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    Slincon, Apr 27, 2007 IP
  13. EGS

    EGS Notable Member

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    So what is the URL? :)
     
    EGS, Apr 27, 2007 IP