my threads have been copied automatically illegaly

Discussion in 'Legal Issues' started by hamids68, Aug 25, 2009.

  1. #1
    First I apologize for my poor english. english is not my first language

    I have medical forum(VB) in our native language from 5 years ago.
    I have 8000 unique visitors perday

    one site that registered just 3 months ago has copied many
    of my threads.google mistakes and show my data on his site on SERP
    by this way he gathers visitors and sell many illegal goods.what can i
    do ?
     
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  2. scylla

    scylla Notable Member

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    email google and ask them to check the creation dates. If they find that yours were made first, then you have something to work with. Also if you plan on going to court, take pictures of your articles with the creation date of your articles and his articles in each photo, then present them slideshow style pointing out the evidence. A video of the same thing wouldn't hurt your case either.

    Remember to give google at least:
    5 article links on your site
    5 article links on your thiefs site (preferably try to link to the same articles from each site)
     
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  3. hamids68

    hamids68 Member

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    thank you

    which email address of google I must use?

    unfourtunately we don`t have good rulles for supporting copywright issues but I try to do by this way

    how about reporting datacenter of the thiefs site and ask them to investigate?
    its datacenter is in Denver us
     
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  4. AaronJan

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    If you can, collect some proof that it is copied.
    I had a similar situation once, where a website owner copied some of my content, and then claimed it was theirs when I wrote to them about it.
    So I went to http://web.archive.org (the internet archive), found archived copies of my pages from something like 2002, long before they had even started their website and sent them the link as independent proof.
    They then apologised, blamed it on some "employee" and removed the content.

    If you do that and they still refuse, you could try contacting their hosting company about copyright violations. Many hosts have clauses about copyrighted material and may suspend an account if the receive complaints.

    If that still fails, you could try contacting google. But I suspect they are flooded with these sorts of issues and might not act unless your website carries some weight.

    But, anyway, try the site owner first with proof. And mention that if they do not remove the offending material then you will be contacting their hosting company and google to have their site removed. Most won't even try calling you on your bluff.
     
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  5. hamids68

    hamids68 Member

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    thank you AaronJan

    Today i found out they completely copied all of my topics(about10000)
    it seems they did it with a program

    I serveral times talked with them with email they refuse .it doesn`t needs
    proof...they say we did it and we don`t remove them...they say it doesn`t
    matter for them what i do....

    now i want to email its datacenter and ask them helping...but I am thinking
    how they can check our websites that is not in english...I can show them many
    same content with links of mine and them...
     
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    Since the datacenter is in the US, you can serve them with a DMCA takedown notice. At least I think you can, even though you're not a US entity. Google "DMCA takedown process" or similar for more information.
     
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  7. hamids68

    hamids68 Member

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    thank you

    I emailed datacenter.they replied.I don`t underestand what to do? I am investigating what can I do.I don`t understand if I am not american can i send formatted DMCA notification or not ...this is what they sent

    In order to act upon your request we need to receive a properly formatted DMCA notification or a court order before we will take action. A properly formatted DMCA notification contains the following:



    (Taken from http://www.copyright.gov/title17/92chap5.html#512)



    (3) Elements of notification. —



    (A) To be effective under this subsection, a notification of claimed infringement must be a written communication provided to the designated agent of a service provider that includes substantially the following:



    (i) A physical or electronic signature of a person authorized to act on behalf of the owner of an exclusive right that is allegedly infringed.



    (ii) Identification of the copyrighted work claimed to have been infringed, or, if multiple copyrighted works at a single online site are covered by a single notification, a representative list of such works at that site.



    (iii) Identification of the material that is claimed to be infringing or to be the subject of infringing activity and that is to be removed or access to which is to be disabled, and information reasonably sufficient to permit the service provider to locate the material.



    (iv) Information reasonably sufficient to permit the service provider to contact the complaining party, such as an address, telephone number, and, if available, an electronic mail address at which the complaining party may be contacted.



    (v) A statement that the complaining party has a good faith belief that use of the material in the manner complained of is not authorized by the copyright owner, its agent, or the law.



    (vi) A statement that the information in the notification is accurate, and under penalty of perjury, that the complaining party is authorized to act on behalf of the owner of an exclusive right that is allegedly infringed.



    Summary of Above



    Date



    Summary of the violation



    1. Identification of copyrighted works:



    2. Location (URL's, etc.) of where the infringing material or activity can be found.



    3. A statement of authority, which must include the following:



    An explicit statement that, "under penalty of perjury", the individual sending the DMCA notification is the copyright holder, or is authorized to act on the behalf of the copyright holder, and that the information contained in the notification is accurate.
     
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  9. neoanderson

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    Hi hamids68 you kindly see if there is any security hole in your forum database. They might have downloaded your database and uploaded in their forum.
     
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    Here is the link to file a DMCA notice with Google, that explains what to do:

    http://www.google.com/dmca.html

    If the person has monitized your content with Adsense, you can file a DMCA notice here:

    http://www.google.com/adsense_dmca.html

    You can also file a similar DMCA notice with the theif's web host.

    It's important that you follow their directions exactly, including mailing or FAXing the DMCA notice, rather than just emailing it.
     
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  11. hamids68

    hamids68 Member

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    thank you all

    I am reading the pages you introuduced.

    I am happy there are someones for supporting

    thank you for posting. as I know by using RSS reader they sent one copy of all topics(more than 10000) to thier blog.first they must remove my data and then I must do somethings for preventing such problems for future
     
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