My Thoughts on the Tupac Assassination Film.

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by tesla, Oct 30, 2007.

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    When I started this thread, I thought about putting it in the entertainment section, but because the topic of this movie was sad and tragic, I didn't think that would be appropriate. If the Mods want to change it, fine.

    In any event, I just got the Tupac: Assassination DVD in the mail, the DVD that just came out on the 23rd of October. I would first like to say that this movie is powerful, and it lays out the evidence for who is really behind the assassination.

    Hardcore Tupac fans will definitely want to pick this one up. The only thing I will say is that Tupac's death may be solved once and for all, and the killers will pay for their crime. The movie lays out powerful evidence by Tupac's own bodyguards, and gives a powerful account of what actually happened in the weeks and months leading up to his death.

    The only thing I will say is that the title of the film is accurate. Tupac's death WAS an assassination. This movie explains who did it, and why, and it provides powerful evidence to back it up.
     
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    Wasn't the LAPD responsible?
     
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    I don't want to ruin the movie for fans, so if you haven't seen it, don't read the rest of this post.

    The movie basically shows that Reggie Wright, Suge Knight, and Death Row Records killed Tupac. The bodyguards explain how Reggie Wright, the head of Death Row Security and a personal friend of Suge, requested that all the bodyguards not carry weapons on the night Tupac was killed. In addition to not having any weapons, Tupac's bodyguard's also had their cellphone/radios taken away from them.

    Also, one of Tupac's bodyguards who is named Michael Moore(No Relation to the Documentary Filmmaker), was reassigned away from Tupac on the night he was killed, and Moore found this to be suspicious. Moore believes that he was assigned away from Tupac because he refused to give up his weapon. After Tupac was shoot, Moore said that Reggie received an errie message on his radio/phone which he overhead, and a voice said "we got him." After this Moore said they he overheard another message giving instructions "not to say anything else over the radio."

    The movie makes the strong argument that Tupac was killed because he wanted to leave Death Row to start his own Record Company(Makaveli Records), and doing so would mean he would have taken the master tapes with him.

    Had Tupac done this, Death Row would have lost their biggest star, as well as future profits from his albums. In addition to this, Death Row owed Tupac millions, as well as other artists, and they hadn't been paid. With Tupac's murder, they suddenly didn't have to worry about paying this money.

    Not directly. However, according to Frank Alexander, Tupac's good friend and bodyguard, Reggie Wright, the head of Death Row Security, did hire police officers to work for Death Row, and some of these police officers were from California.

    In addition to this, many of these police officers were corrupt. I believe that the actual shooters of Tupac were police officers that Reggie Wright had paid off, and Orlando Anderson was just the fall guy who was used to make it seem as if Tupac's murder was revenge for Anderson's beating at the MGM Grand.

    The good news about this movie is that it may spark and outcry that could lead to a trial. I think Afeni, Tupac's mother, could sue the LVPD for millions due to negligence in their handling of the case.

    All I will say about this film is that if the evidence shown in the film is taken before a trial and jury, the case will be solved, because the evidence clearly shows who did it.

    I always felt that it was Death Row, that the other theories were too far fetched. Death Row had all the motive, incentive, means, and opportunity to carry out the crime.
     
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    Even after watching the film, I still have a bunch of questions:

    1. If Reggie Wright was involved, was Suge involved as well, even though he was in the same car as Tupac? Suge being in the car with Pac would have been risky for him, as the bullets could have easily hit him. At the same time, it would also have been the perfect cover if Suge WAS involved.

    2. Whats the Biggie connection to all of this? Was Biggie Smalls Murdered by Death Row to make it seem like an East Coast/West Coast Feud, or was Biggie killed in a separate conspiracy?

    3. How will Afeni, Tupac's mother react to this? Will she hold the LVPD and Death Row responsible, and demand a trial?


    This movie is just the beginning. I believe this film could be one of the most important documentaries of all time, because It may solve one of the greatest unsolved murders in the history of the entertainment history.

    I would also like to say one more thing for the record. I think it was very wise for Tupac's bodyguards to produce a documentary film where they go public and tell people what they saw and witnessed. The reason I say is this because, now that they've gone public with what they saw and heard, the people who were involved in the murder are less likely to attempt to silence them...
     
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    Lets be honest here, because of a stupid silly code of not giving up information about A MURDER, no one is ever going to be caught for this, or many other crimes. Until the culture of intimidation and eliminated, these will just be unsolved cases, that make for good conspiracy books, nothing more.

    sad that people are to afraid to come forward. just sad
     
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    Ya - everyone in the rap game blames Suge Knight. It's a shame the LAPD still hasn't found out who killed him. It's a shame.
     
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    that is because everyone is afraid of being killed, having their families killed, being blackballed in the music industry, etc.
    more then a shame - it is embarrassing.
     
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    It is embarrassing, yes - but what if the snitch comes forward and then flees the country?
     
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    this is a silly conversation. he got killed on the VEGAS STRIP. there has to be many witnesses. amazing to me no one comes forward.
     
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    Wasn't there a cop that saw the shootout too?
     
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    apparently MANY people saw it
     
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    This isn't exactly true. In the movie, Tupac's bodyguards make it clear that Tupac was not killed "directly" on the strip. He was shot on Flamingo and Koval, which is off the strip, and they make it clear in the movie that Flamingo and Koval are used to get around heavy traffic on the weekends. They also make it clear that this street is dark at night.

    Because the killing took place in Las Vegas, it would not be in the LAPD's jurisdiction to handle the case. LVPD would be primarily responsible.

    I definitely believe Suge was involved, and so does Tupac's bodyguards. But the movie focuses more on Reggie Wright than Suge, and he is considered to be at the center of this.

    Also, not everyone believes Suge did it. You have people who believe Tupac faked his own death, or that the government did it, or that Biggie Smalls did it, or that Orlando Anderson did it. The one thing this movie does is put all these theories to rest, and shows, without a shadow of a doubt, why an investigation should be opened on Death Row Records. Tupac's death was an inside job. People within his own record label did it.

    I agree with you that the "code of silence" is foolish. You hear all the time about rappers talking about "not being a snitch," but the thing people don't understand is that in a culture like this, where no one speaks up, criminals can get away with anything they want.

    If the government breaks crimes, and no one speaks up, how far will society go? This think about not speaking up is foolish to me. The good news in Tupac's case is that his bodyguards ARE speaking up, and they've made it clear that they all saw suspicious things taking place the night Tupac was shot, and previously.

    This movie shows amazing new evidence, and I definitely think the LVPD should interview these bodyguards and seek to take this thing to trial. I've always felt Suge was involved.
     
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    If he faked his own death - then where is he now? The death wasn't faked.
     
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    Oh i haven't get the chance to get that movie... But I'm really a hardcore Tupac Fanatic... oh well, i hope justice would be given to him.

    If Tupac faked his own death, why would he do that? His career boomed during his time and do you think he would be glad to take that away with just pretending he's dead? i don't think so...

    But i believe it is really an inside job.
     
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