This is going to sound silly or lazy but here it is and I appreciate anyone's help with this and also just your time, for reading it. A couple years back, I was really into PHP and learning it and wanted a simple one file solution that would generate thumbnails of all the images in a folder, and I couldn't find exactly what I was looking for, so I studied related techniques and various people's free bits of code and sort of cobbled everything together into a (for me) useful and usable thumbnail script which I've been pretty happy with, though depending on your connection speed and the webhost, it sometimes times out if you have 60+ large images. I even got my script, called AllThumbs, listed in some of the PHP scripts archives like HotScripts and such, and a very nice guy emailed me and improved on the script. A warning though, my script IS fairly "spaghetti-ized". At any rate, I recently came across a very simple "square thumbnail" image script and incorporated it into my script, or tried to. It worked - once. I dropped it into a folder with some pictures and invoked the generate tag, and it made perfectly square thumbnails, just like it was supposed to. Once. I haven't been able to get it to do that again, in that location or any other, and even get "function" errors sometimes and I have no idea why - I didn't change anything. Here is a live version of my script, which by default, its generate tag (thbcrt) is null or 0, which means it just loads up the already created thumbnails out of the thumbnail folder and displays them on the page. By changing the tag value to 1, it causes it to (ideally) create new thumbs - the link below is set to generate thumbs. It only generates the first image, though it didn't do that the first time I used it. http://www.zanysite.com/okiecrabjpneok/pics/photos/allthumbs15.php?thbcrt=1 Here is the full source for this script: http://www.zanysite.com/okiecrabjpneok/pics/photos/allthumbs15.txt The "Catch": For various reasons that you probably don't care about, I can't get my head right in the past few months to get back into "coding" and I can't even follow the flow of my own program (though to be fair it is mostly snippets from other people I combined without really understanding how they worked) so my suspicion is that I am actually going to be unable to "fix" this script even if given hints or suggestions, because I don't know how I wrote it to begin with... SO... I guess I'm asking/pleading if anyone can improve and get this script working correctly, I would be extremely grateful and although in some ways, some parts of it really aren't mine to begin with (though I have long since forgotten where I got most of the coding), I release this freely to anyone and everyone to do with whatever they want (I'd appreciate leaving the credits), perfect it, whatever, though if I get a working version, I'd like to put it up on the script sites again for other people like me who are looking for just a simple thumbnail script that doesn't use a database or anything. Thanks again for reading and any help. =) -JP