My SEO Strategy - Is It OK?

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by tshirtdeal, Feb 13, 2009.

  1. #1
    Hi, I am looking for some thoughts from the top SEO guys and gals about my SEO strategy...

    I just had a PR scare on my main site and lost a site a year ago in "G" for nothing IMO. I am a white hatter or builds unique personal content and looks for white hat backlinks, never paid for one or sold one...

    I guess my main question is how many backlinks is it ok to get per day?

    How many free directories can I submit to ( I do about 5 per day and change my URL and anchor text often)

    I distribute articles to the high PR article directories

    I ask email webmasters a personal email when I come across a related site/page I would like a link on with some link exchange ideas.

    I am just more an more worried about my site taking some stupid penalty and curious what the limits are...

    TIA for any help!
     
    tshirtdeal, Feb 13, 2009 IP
  2. vansterdam

    vansterdam Notable Member

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    The only thing in your strategy that could nip you in the butt is exchanging links. You could end up having links to bad neighborhoods or spammy websites. Really any unrelated links can hurt you.

    As for your other link building, just keep varying the link anchor text and you'll be fine.

    You still might get penalized for something else one day, but you can't let that fear affect your efforts. Stay positive and keep doing what works for you.
     
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  3. tshirtdeal

    tshirtdeal Peon

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    I don't actually exchange links, I actually ask if they would be interested in adding my link to their page as it may be a nice resource for their readers and if they needed anything would help such as write a optimized page of content for their site on any topic or help them with their site in some way,

    So the links I get from that are few but they are not reciprocal....
     
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  4. jitendraag

    jitendraag Notable Member

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    @vansterdam: I don't think links unrelated links harm. Do you think 1000s of links from this webmaster forum to your card printing and credit card application sites are 'related'?

    Even bad neighborhood links can't harm otherwise everyone would start using them to bomb their competitors.

    Coming back to OPs questions:

    I guess my main question is how many backlinks is it ok to get per day?
    That depends on the site niche. I stick to about 5/10 links per day for most of my sites.

    How many free directories can I submit to ( I do about 5 per day and change my URL and anchor text often)
    How do you change your URL in directory submissions? :) You can do 300/400 submissions per day and it won't harm your site. Directories take time in reviewing submissions and search engines also take time in indexing directories.

    I distribute articles to the high PR article directories
    Many people use article submissions, though I am not a big fan of this technique, I won't say it's useless :)

    I ask email webmasters a personal email when I come across a related site/page I would like a link on with some link exchange ideas.
    If you can get links from webmaster by offering help / content and you are successful with it, nothing could be better :)

    You might also try guest posting if you are good at writing.
     
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  5. tshirtdeal

    tshirtdeal Peon

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    Thanks for the nice reply,

    I change my URL for directories as in the URL for the pages I submit to, so I will do like 5 directories for one page of my site and then switch to a new page with new anchor text...

    I would not dismiss article directories, I find them to be a great way to get your site out there. My articles are seo'd and often rank well in the search engines for the keyword from the directory. This has gotten me many great links on related web sites, i actually think it is the best technique I use, but today is it getting watered down and not working like it use to, but then again i did just get a killer PR link for an article I wrote which got me instantly in the first 3 pages for a very competitive keyword...

    I feel what I do is all within any guidelines and all white hat, just seeing my PR5 site that i put so much work into go to PR 0 scarred the heck out of me and makes me wonder if I am being to aggressive when I actually feel I am not being aggressive enough..

    Anyway, thanks for the help, it puts things in a nice organized perspective....
     
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  6. tshirtdeal

    tshirtdeal Peon

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    Oh yeah, on the asking webmasters and helping thing... That is always hit or miss, but like today I gotta reply from a guy and he has over 100 related websites with decent PR, like perfectly related and is good at SEO. He is letting me write a page for each site with my link in the content of each page.

    So when you get something like that it makes the effort well worth it :)
     
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  7. internetmarketingiq

    internetmarketingiq Well-Known Member

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    How many can you do a day? Google doesn't crawl every site every day. So it could be days to weeks before your submissions to any of the sources you listed even get crawled. And what is your acceptance rate for submissions. If you are doing things "white hat"; I doubt you could do enough to seriously trigger any filter as long as you are not spamming or using too much of the same method.

    Get as many good links as you can.
     
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  8. rena

    rena Peon

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    Stsrtegy is OK abut same preference for content updation and on page optimization.. Better is daily updation give good priority on google
     
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  9. tshirtdeal

    tshirtdeal Peon

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    Well I consider myself white hat, I don't even blog comment because I really don't think I can show genuine interest in the conversation and all I would care about is a quick link...

    as I said I distribute about 2 articles per site per week, do about 10 directory submissions per site per day figuring 5 get picked up and then email some hand picked sites with a personal email asking for a link and anything I can do to help with getting the link (besides pay, not that I think paying for links is bad, I simply cannot afford to get my links that way)

    The main thing is I do this for my sites and last year one of my sites went from PR3 to PR0 and 10,000 google hits to 0 and has remained that way for an entire year now. The only thing that possibly could have done this is the fact I went aggressive for one keyword and probably got to many 1 way links (no recips, only 1 way) with the same page URL anchor text and description. I was probably picking up about 10 or 20 1 way links for a month or 6 weeks that went onto different pages and sites but all the same link info.

    Today my first site and best site of 4 years went from PR 5 to PR0 on the two main toolbar PR checkers. I checked all databases and half were down and all others showed my site as PR5 still, now PR has returned and so have the databases, so I was just in a major panic.

    Maybe some better SEO's who follow "G" with a fine tooth comb would know if having so many databases down at the same time for a short time is normal or if something is up, because that is the first time I noticed something like that and perhaps some form of Google dance is in the works...

    Peace...
     
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  10. tshirtdeal

    tshirtdeal Peon

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    Oh, well on page optimization and daily additions of unique content plus changes to other pages content (not SEO changes) are always done a few times a day. I am not worried with my on page criteria for any of my sites, a matter of fact all my sites are completely optimized "on page" the same, so since one site went down as it did means only off page criteria could be the problem...
     
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  11. seohelp

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    Daily updation is good to give the priority on google. I think its the nice strategy.
     
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    chicky01 Active Member

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    wat i do dear just add 2 or three content everyday & it vget cached in one or two weaks,it helps in maintaning your site stabel at seo.
    Just donot reciproc link to the same site just deal in 3 way i tthink thats the best way to make your site stabel at search engines.
    i have pr3 casino site for backlinks,tahts helps you to get ant plenty from google on your main site.
    If intrested in link exchange just mail me at casinogrand(@)gmail(dot)com.
     
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  13. seoservicesworld

    seoservicesworld Peon

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    well there is no limit mentioned by G about the backlinks per day.

    as far as concerned about the dir and articles

    I will suggest you go for quality work rather than quantity work
     
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  14. Londonseoconsultants

    Londonseoconsultants Guest

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    This is a COMPLETE MYTH ! Lots of webmasters say dont get too many links too fast its utter bull !

    The reason they say this is cos they got too many unnatural links too fast so they got penalised.

    Its easy for google to see that the same link suddenly appears on 100 pages in a few days all with the same description.

    If links are natural - or at least look natural then it doesnt matter how many .

    Dont waste your time submitting to directories unless you use a different description each time, and only submit one article to one article directory
     
    Londonseoconsultants, Feb 15, 2009 IP
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    bd90 Well-Known Member

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    it's very harmful if u try to build quick back link. i think 10 directory submission, 5 blog posting, 2-3 link exchange / day is more than enough. if u can do some social bookmarking this will help u to get more traffic for your site rather than back link. Don't bother too much & don't be very fast, go slow.
     
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    Tumpo Well-Known Member

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    if you have a new website and you get plenty of spammy backlinks, yeah, google see this as bad. If you have an aged and trusted website, you can get plenty of spammy backlinks all days, no one is going to care.
     
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