My SEO Case study of how a site is Ranking so high in Google !

Discussion in 'SEO' started by poseidon, Aug 31, 2007.

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    Well, I was noticing that http://www.lyrics007.com/ was coming on top on serps for almost every articst+song_name combo so I felt to make a blog post about it that what they have done to bring there site on top. There is lot of keyword stuffing obviously but some nice tricks too which they have used like similar search combos.

    You can read the entire post How to get on top of Google - SEO Case study to know more about it. I feels the site is a good example of how to go a little ahead in a crowded market and with that little extra, how you can make it huge profits.
     
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    m0nkeymafia Well-Known Member

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    #2
    Some great points there dude
    However...

    You forget to mention they have about 18000 backlinks, in such a highly competitive niche backlinks are very important

    Also point 3 is inaccurate
    Google doesnt like %20's and prefer's hyphens aka -
     
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  3. poseidon

    poseidon Banned

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    #3
    I am pretty sure that I didn't said %20 is good over hyphens or underscores.(will again read it) :) Ya ofcourse links are very important and site does have lots of credibility(by the way, how many of them are insite links?) but eventually the page score will matter more for a keyword.

    Glad you liked it :)
    Cheers
     
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    #4
    Enjoyed reading it.
    Nice article :)
    One thing they are missing IMO is : they should put their keyword in extreme bottom too.
    Not sure why they didnt do it , may be some reason that anyone else can suggest ?
     
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    m0nkeymafia Well-Known Member

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    #5
    Sorry dude was the impression I got, was only tryin to help :)
    And none of them are insite links unless yahoo is lyin to me ;)

    But it is a good article tho!
     
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    SecretDownload Well-Known Member

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    Nice post Poseidon. And a mention in google for "How to get on top of Google - SEO Case study".

    I think you will find that it is because Google loves backinks, Alexa scores and content.

    This site is a content farm. If you want Gabrielle Lyrics it is easy:

    Lyrics007
    Gabrielle Lyrics
    Gabrielle Lyrics/name of song Lyrics

    When surfers search on Google they are looking for Lyrics then something else. Almost every page has the word lyrics on it. It ranks 9th for 'Lyrics' on Google. It says that it has 600000+ lyrics in its database.

    So I think it is safe to say that the whole site is built to own the keyword, wait for it, Lyrics.

    Want to know one of the next sites they are working on?

    I'll give you a clue - they are building up the backlinks to it as we speak...

    Look at the bottom link to LYRICS - 100-lyrics.com/

    Nice touch if you ask me. They must make some serious money through adsense.

    I've attached my analysis of the site.

    If anyone wants one done on their site - give me a PM.

    Onward and upwards

    Steve Dorrington (AKA CarpetDog)
     

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    poseidon Banned

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  8. SecretDownload

    SecretDownload Well-Known Member

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    OK

    A great way of aging a domain and getting backlinks for it is to put your link on a related site with a related keyword as the link.

    In this case it is lyrics and http://www.100-lyrics.com/ . If you look at the link it is a straight link out - not a target="_blank". This will give the link a lot of strength on backlinks from this PR5 site.

    If they just put up the site it would be just another site. 100-lyrics only started back in Apr of this year - try ranking high - quickly - with few backlinks is impossible - it also fools google into thinking that it has had lots of backlinks over time rather than all at once.

    I bet that the front page for 100-lyrics is also included (include(http://blah blah) in quite a few other sites too.

    If we go even deeper...

    lyrics007 is on a server with another 600+ sites and 450+ of those are using the same system (if not the same database).

    azlyrics.com, lyricsondemand.com, lyricsfreak.com, lyricsfind.com, lyricsdepot.com, lyricscafe.com, lyricalfantasia.com, lyred.com, letssingit.com, sing365.com

    To name but a few.

    I think you will find that the HiChina company (from Hong Kong) have similar link/content farms all over the web. You'll also find they fund everything by providing an excellent service (in this case lyrics) and adsense.

    You can tell they are just 'going through the motions' because things that you and I would think important ie looks, links to copyright etc - they just have a word with no link. Search engines looooove this sort of thing.

    If we were to try this, we would be slapped quickly - however - this site, while fooling the search engines, actually provides a really good lyrics database.

    Onward and upwards

    Steve Dorrington (AKA CarpetDog)

    PS You could do this easily - you just have to have money.
     
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    #9
    Great article there.

    And steve, really appreciable research ;)

    Let me go through your analysis and see whats further.
     
    namaste, Sep 3, 2007 IP
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    #10
    Nice article....

    good case study for begineers !!!
     
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    #11
    I'm no expert, but in your article you mention that the site has "No fancy columns or CSS." - surely it'd be more beneficial if they were to use basic CSS for their layout to reduce the amount of code the spiders have to trawl through? ie ditching messy table and font attributes?
     
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    m0nkeymafia Well-Known Member

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    The best thing you can do is physically put your content right at the very top and nav and other stuff at the bottom, then use CSS to align it properly
     
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    #13
    Yes, Great advice. I have seen some experts also saying this. The content has to be on the top left side and use CSS to align everything. Although too much css creates browser compatibility problem for me.
     
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    #14
    Hash is this #. If you have hash, Google will think it's a page section reference for users, not for search engines.

    I think you mean hyphen, this -.
     
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    Again I think you're confusing what you see with what a spider sees
     
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    #16
    great article..reps for u
     
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    #17
    I think, Yes I am. Can you clarify your previous statement ? :)
     
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    m0nkeymafia Well-Known Member

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    #18
    I meant physically within the file itself, not where it is rendered

    i.e. the text is actually at the top of the html [or php] file rather than at the top of the website as you see it

    That is the difference between how a spider sees your site and how you do.
    Download a browser called lynx, its basically how a spider will see your site
     
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    #19
    ^^ What he said =)

    The content could show up right at the bottom of your site, on the left, the right, wherever - it doesn't matter to the spiders; what does matter is the position of the content in your code.

    As for the argument of the benefits of CSS, it makes for much cleaner code - ie less actual code within the source of the site - which means that the spiders have less to navigate through in order to find your actual content
     
    kingcaw, Sep 16, 2007 IP