I\'ll agree there is still plenty of money to made in ringtones. There are lots and lots of good $.5 keywords out there.
$.5 or $.05? I'm finding that it's really hard to get high volume keywords and placement for under $.20. With any of the engines. It just seems like it sucks if your keywords are in positions above 30 or so.
nowadays 0.5 is okay 8))) problem is not the price. the problem is to stay within that price 8((( QS=BS
In my opinion, Google really should roll out that QS tool to all accounts so people can see what their QS is.
Hey bluesync, I see that your average cost per click in your screenshot is 13 cents, but what was your max bid? Did you ever bid over, say, 25 cents a click?
from my own experience I just can't belive now that it is possible - 8M impressions for 13Ñ a click 8(. Especially at YSM, where editors seem to just don't like Any KWs.
I never bid over .20, my max was .13 to .15, I tried .15 to see if it would significantly increase volume, but it didn't so I dropped to .13 and .12 which was were my best CPC/Click volume was at. 50 cents is wayyyyy too much... Well, I guess if you're up for the challenge of tweaking and testing for optimal conversions then it could be profitable... 14.25 is the highest Azoogle offer for ringtones, so you'd have to convert once every 28 clicks to be "profitable" (but only making 25 cents). Dada converts the worst, but makes the most money. Rockin Ringer and Spicymint are right about 5-6%. There's some inside Azoogle tips for you guys. My two rules are: -Return a 3x or more ROI -Bid no more than 10 cents CPC (even though I bend this one a little, only a couple cents though).
Oh yeah another thing, try to get your keywords auto approved by their stupid spiders, that will save you frustration when it's manually reviewed and they decline like 70% of your keywords... Yahoo is a keyword destroyer. Or you can keep trying to push your keywords through until they're approved, lol
I really don't see how you got that much volume when you were only bidding around 13 cents. Damn. Paying 50 cents per click seems crazy though.
I'm not sure what my problem is, I started making a lot of profit the first few days in ringtones. Now, I'll get like 100 clicks (in Azoogle) per day and only 1 lead. I'll get more clicks than that in YPN, but not all of them make it through the landing page. Even still, I would have hoped more people would be converting.
heh. These PPC issues are very ineteresting indeed! >Bid no more than 10 cents CPC >50 cents is wayyyyy too much HAHAHA! Try AdWords and see the real prices yourself 8) Btw YSM gonna start this February their own QS system. Soo... 8(( Last week I managed to do 1)up to 0.5 cpc 2)1:14 conversion 3)200% ROI 4)150$ pure profit a day from AdWords alone EVERYTHING WAS GREAT!.. UNTIL MY keywords have suffered that ph#cking prices like 5$ a click. My LP content is ok. I think it is because of my CTR of 0.2-0.8% 8( I might say Goo almost stopped to show my Ads by now. Guess how much I spend with Goog yesterdaY? $2.69 for 11 clicks! That's a real shame... for my 22K KW list! 8)). Sooo.. Yeah, making money IS EASY, provided you know how to make SE show your ads without bidding 5-10$ for a click. And one more thing: My YSM Expenses are 130$+ (avg cpc is 0.25). My conversions from YSM are like 1 or 2 leads. WTF!??????
If you're not converting but getting clicks... The main factor would likely be your keywords. If your keywords are fine, look at your landing page. I've been testing something for the past few days, and I've been converting over $1.00 eCPC consistently.
Yeah, but even if they keywords aren't 100% related to ringtones, they'll see an ad for complimentary ringtones, and if they're interested in ringtones then they'll click. So don't really see how the keywords could factor into whether or not they'll convert, because either way they're interested in ringtones.
WRONG all the way!!! THE SAME KWs are getting 0,7-1,2$ eCPC with AdWords. Yet on YSM they deliver NOTHING. it could be funny if not so frustrating 8( ----- Is Yahoo a scam? Click here to find out 8))
Yes, Yahoo is a scam. The whole billion dollar corporation was set up just to cheat you out of $10 a day in clicks.
hahaha 8) why not? multiply 10$ by 100000 advertisers and guess what? You'll see some decent money 8)
I have some campaigns where I pay more than .50 a keyword and yet my roi is much, much, higher then yours.... the reality is you have to test and expirement. As soon as you start making assumptions without actually testing something you are destined to leave money on the table.
Yup that's true. You've probably tested a thousand times more than I have. And that's such a good point... Test test test test test!