Pretty much the point I was trying to prove is that ringtones is really not a difficult market, nor is it saturated at all. Everybody says it's saturated but they've only half assed it, not to mention they probably haven't even tried it at all. People learn from what people say so if one guy says "ringtones are fricken crazy hard" then others will think so and then virally everybody has a prerequisition that ringtones are a bad place to start if you're an affiliate marketer. Well I proved a point that ringtones is not hypersaturated, and it has so much more room than you'll ever know. If you're willing to work hard, or if you're just smart, you can be profitable. Try it before you buy it. Try marketing ringtones before buying what other people say, if you're new you'll learn so much. If it doesn't kill you you'll become stronger. Although I did not fail the first time, I learned so much and can easily find an edge to the competition. The full experiment is at http://www.bluebobbo.com/700-ringtones-ppc-experiment-1700/ I got a bunch of feedback on it, so I posted a follow up to answer some questions people asked me which can be found here. http://www.bluebobbo.com/following-up-on-ringtones-experiment/ See for yourself
props on the post... great info.. and i'm sure making $1,000 profit is always nice as well.. great job.. did you use the same landing page for the 1000+ keywords you were going with? great post...
yeah, it's interesting.. but that was a december - kinda bonus month for shopping and other spending stuff 8)) to me, january is more like a dead month 8(
No offence, but this seems pretty half assed. Your CTR was 0.07%, and you wrote 1 ad. And I'm guess you ran a single landing page for all the keywords. I'm glad you didn't lose money, but I wouldn't consider this a "point proven". As one of the people who advises noobs not to try ringtones first, I stand by my recommendation because there are much easier niches to tackle that offer a better chance at success. If you look at the KEIs for most keywords in the ringtone space you'll see what I mean.
I am not convinced. I have used a 60,000 word keyword list and used all 3 big guys. (yahoo, msn, google) - Conversion rates for me have been around .20 ECPC and not .83 - I lose money with them. BTW: I use all the tactics you explained above (even including A/B testing and a few other things.) - I am not convinced this was not done just for link bait.
Who ever said CTR mattered? As long as the clicks are coming through. If you read the article that was one of the last points I made that I could have done better writing more ads. The point is that ringtones is not as hard as it's hyped up to be, that's it. How would that even be considered link bait? Link bait is an attempt to gain links, giving out competitive information like that most webmasters (affiliate marketers) would NOT want to link to it. Frankly, you don't have to be convinced. --------------- I'm still doing it of course. My average eCPC is like .80 ish.
I thought link bait was a tactic to get people to check out a specific website. when I first read this blog I thought it was a link bait tactic as well. I mean, it's a brand new blog with 1 post talking about ringtones.
?? Does it matter, he gave out some info what he did to make some money and his blog does not have any ads on...
I think clicks matter more than CTR bud. CTR is just a derived statistic. Clicks are actual visitors going in your site.
Right, but the point is with a CTR that low, eventually your ads will stop showing completely. Try running that campaign on Google and see what happens. Yahoo's quality algo will catch up with you too, just not as fast. CTR is crucial to keeping campaigns running.
First of all....(THIS IS MY OPINION) - BlueSync might be telling the truth. However, I just feel like this is an attempt to be like Shoemoney. With a 2000 keyword list put together in 30 mins it would almost be impossible to make this money. It takes months of dedicated watching and changing things to make positive cash flow (in the ringtone industry). I do well in other industries and do well over 10,000 a month. So I know that Ringtones is a very tough area and I would be in it if there was tons of money to be made. (There is still money to be made) if you were in it from the beginning. Getting into it now is very very very difficult at best. Makes sense that a guy starting a new blog would try to hype himself a little bit to get a bit of talk going about his new blog. I don't blame him
great encouragment for me really would like to give a shot in this market too. by the way is http://www.bonus-tones.com/ your site that you promote? Anyone can help me with the landing page design?
This is SOOOooo true Especially on G... Yahoo takes a little longer to catch on but with their new system they take it into account. As sonic stated earlier there is of course still money to be made in tones... the key is why try to tackle a market that is soo heavily competitive when you can REALY rake it in, in other markets with less competition.
There is still tons of money to be made on ringtones, and its not as hard as everyone here claims. If someone had the desire to learn feel free to PM me ill help you out. Its not easy either and i am not going to give you every detail, but a road map to follow, where you go from there is up to you. The biggest point of failure is the offer you send traffic to. If youre not seeing 10% conversion CHANGE THE OFFER!!!!