My Opinion About The Democratic Party

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    The democratic party is trying to move the U.S. to European style socialism. That's apparent. This is totally out in the open now and clear to see.

    My opinion on what's coming if the democrats in power at this time get this European socialism entreched is they are going to take the socialism up a step to borderline communism.

    My opinion is the democrates in power want to create a society where the government picks and chooses who moves up the economic ladder. The democrates do not like the fact that anyone can start a business, get promoted up or get filty rich. The democrates want to pick and choose who gets wealthy. The democrates in my opinion want to gain control over the economic classes of people and who is in each separate economic class.

    The democrates in this scenero will eventually create high taxes on small businesses to keep their growth down and give tax breaks to the businesses they want to see succeed. This is already happening now with the new taxes on earnings over $250,000 . This tax on earning over $250.000 is just the beginning of Obama and the democrates master plan to control who gets to move up economically and control the economic classes of people. Big business are going to get slammed hard when the Bush tax breaks get removed and this is only the tip of the iceberg for big corporate business.

    In my own personal opinion this control of the economic classes of people and control over who gets to move up into a higher earning economic class is coming. This is horrifying!
     
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    I don’t think so. They far away from our Canadian liberalism at this point and I can’t see how
    possibly they can get to socialism without that first step.

    You do realize that something like that physically impossible?

    Why not? Filthy rich pay more taxes after all. Don’t they?

    This is where I will step off because the rest doesn’t make any sense.

    :rolleyes:

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    I didn't say this is where we are at. I said what's taking place now may be an attempt to lead the U.S. to borderline communism.

    I also stated the democrats want to take the U.S. past Europeon type socialism.

    Ya gotta read the words and understand them instead of assuming. Of coarse I don't think what I stated will happen and the democrats in power along with Obama will be crushed over the next few years. What I stated is that this is where Obama and the democrats want to take the country.

    "Quit Assuming!"

    Canadian style liberalism is a failure. Liberalism in the U.S. will be crushed hopefully. Liberalism sucks, doesn't work and Liberals think they should get loads of freebies just because they were born.
     
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    Well, as soon you stop brainstorming and use "what if?' as your philosophical foundation.
    Start making sense when you're talking about politics, if you capable to do so or get
    better topic for senseless mumbling, something like Craft and Gifts or better yet Weather

    Failure?
    You mean like the fact that we're not paying a penny for medical care?

    :rolleyes:

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    Rebecca Prominent Member

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    There is no such thing as free medical care, someone, somewhere is paying for it. Assuming that would be your government, where does your government get its money to pay for health care, so that you don't have to "pay a penny for medical care"?
     
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    At least you are closing in on what I really said now with the "What If" comment but you are not there yet. Go find a dictionary and look up the word "MAY" and apply it to my comment. You will find the words "What If" aren't in my statement and my statement contains no "What If" meaning. You will find the word "May" and you will eventually have to admit the meaning of my statement is "May Happen".

    Liberals always do this. I call it "LIBERAL LUNACY" . Liberalism only can survive under a stong conservative base. Liberals will self destruct on their own. The U.S. has a strong conservative base that Europeon and Canadian socialism survive under. If the U.S. goes socialist all the economies will colaspe as they are doing right now. It wil get worse.


    The Canadian companies make all their money to "Pay Your Wages" by selling their products in the U.S. Canada exports are 80%to the U.S.

    The only reason why Canadian liberalism survives in Canada is because the U.S. has a strong conservative economic base for the Canadian companies to sell in.


    I've talked to lots of liberals and you people are all the same. You can't accept reality due to your sense that you should be given everything instead of having to earn it. You can't stand that someone is making millions and you are stuck making minumum wage. You think the person making millions should give you some of their money. I really don't see Liberal millionaires giving poor liberals their money so why should any millionaire give you their money?

    You won't be able to twist my statements to make your visions correct. You will self destruct.
     
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    Of course we all Canadians are contributing to Medicare but it cost us nothing compare
    to what Americans are paying in Insurance and deductible costs. I survived $200,000
    cancer surgery and endless after surgery treatments and never paid a penny out from
    my packet including deductible because we don’t have one in our system.

    Just in case someone decide to point me to bogus commercials on American TV about our
    Medicare waiting time, let me tell you, I have to tell my doctor that I can’t take surgery in
    4 days because I need at least one week to prepare my “just in case” papers.

    Stats:
    No one in History of Canada since Medicare was introduced went bankrupt.

    :)

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    There's no doubt the U.S. medical care system needs to be overhauled. Every U.S. citizen democrat, republican and independant agrees the U.S medical care system needs to be overhauled. But not overhauled and controlled by a socialist/liberal government.

    Liberals think socialism is their answer to getting the U.S. Liberal. The liberals were taken over by the so called progressives and the so called progressives are communist minded. The U.S. is the last standing conservative economy and if it collaspes all liberalism will collaspe because as I stated, liberalism cannot survive on its own.

    P.S. The democrates are forcing U.S. citzens to purchase insurance or get fined. This isn't liberalism. This goes past liberalism and is communism.
     
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    Our private insurance will routinely cover surgery, and cancer treatments as well. But, you're right, carrying private insurance can be kind of expensive. Where I stand on this, is that I believe the medical care system in this country would probably benefit from some level of reform, such as trying to eliminating fraud, and perhaps further regulations that safeguard consumers. In any case, I'm glad your medical system worked for you, and hope you're feeling better now.
     
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    Are you trying to be cute with me?

    "May Happen" is nothing more than wishful thinking. What if nothing will happen?
    Can you tell for sure if you will be as "smart" tomorrow as you're smart today.
    Shit may happen and brick will fail on your head or maybe it misses you.

    I can go on with "may" or "may not" nonsense as long you continue to sell us
    your unreachable dreams or day dreaming delusions or both


    Go Canada!

    LOL, believe me I don't have to twist or to do anything because you're doing very good job
    to self destruct without me moving my finger.

    No, but it must be controlled by the one in order to make it work

    So you know, Communist system is based on free for all principals where no one
    forced to pay anything but get everything next guy is getting.

    Sorry if I'm confusing you with the facts.
    Take an Advil to clear your head and to feel better.

    :)

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    Yes thank you, I do feel 100% now and.... thanks to Canada $200,000 richer.

    :)

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    Fast Replies, I'm glad you survived. I'm glad you survived without having to pay $200,000 out of pocket. The cost of insurance is only one part of the problem in the US. We spent $7,290 per person on health care in 2007, with Canada coming in a distant second at $3,895. Some portion of those costs are insurance company profits. Some portion of those costs are exorbitant fees for elective surgeries, such as breast augmentation and noes jobs(Even the teenagers are having them done these days). Some portion of those profits are paid to big pharma who have a drug from everything to attention deficit disorder to insomnia, as well as the outrageously expensive cutting edge drugs created by such a pool of research wealth. Some portion of that money goes to Hospitals, many of whom feel they need their own full body PET scanner, and levy outrageous fees to pay for it. Some portion of that money goes to pay for the medical education of our doctors, who pay comparatively ridiculous sums of money to become a practicing physician. Some portion of that money goes to pay the outrageous medical malpractice insurance fees, since anyone can sue any doctor for any perceived mistreatment. Many are offered a settlement immediately, regardless of the merits of the claim, since our trial attorneys bill at $450-$1200/hr and settling a claim quickly is almost always cheaper than getting to pre-trial depositions.

    Obama Care focused on one aspect of the cost of health care. Insurance. Even if the government did do a better job at eliminating fraud and controlling costs, any money saved would be like pissing on a forest fire. There is a reason people from all parts of the planet come to the US to get involved in the business.

    If(when?) the liberal wet dream of Single Payer health care ever comes to be in the US, it will have some interesting effects. It very possibly could raise the standard of health care for the middle-lower class American. It would also mean, by necessity, the medical insurance companies of today, and all their market cap would evaporate. The lions share of doctors across the board would have to take pay cuts, as single payer means only one customer, or a monopoly on customers. In turn, most medical schools would have to lower tuition costs to make attending med school a profitable proposition. Drug companies would experience an enormous downsizing, since the monopoly of customers would be dictating rates. The same people operating that monopoly also set all the rules and regulations by which all those drug companies, hospitals, doctors, and DME companies operate.

    Its hard to say what exactly would happen, but considering the amount of money and number of jobs at stake, it would the closest thing I could imagine to a revolution. If so, I think we can count on everyone suffering except the attorneys.
     
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    Things like healthcare are better off controlled by the government rather than free market capitalism. Its not the field for profit whores.
     
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    So where do you draw the line? Obviously you include insurance. By extension you automatically get the pay of the doctors, nurses, and all other medical staff. Do you go after DME and Pharma companies as well? How about the trial attorneys? Ambulance drivers? Software developers who build software for the medical field?
     
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    I don't know how much DME cost, whether they overcharge or not but Pharma companies definitely, have you looked at their balance sheets?
     
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    It is always entertaining when ignorant people post here.

    You know who you are. ;)
     
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    No way! Even the conservatives agree the health care system needs to rebuilt but not by the government. That's liberal lunacy. I myself could create a health plan for the country that would satisfy everyones needs financially and physically. It would all be in the private sector with "No Government Control" except for regulation.

    Good luck getting people to side with you liberals now that Obama messed up this countries economy worse than Clinton and Bush. Obama took the garbage Clinton set in place and the Garbage Bush didn't clean up and tripled the economic pain.

    Nothing but liberal lunacy!
     
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    I hope you are talking about People Browse.

    LOL
     
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    Don't even embarrass yourself like that by asking.

    Or he may not include you in his Utopian system that satisfies everyone. :(
     
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    Hey, everyone is always talking about me. If you ain't got everybody trying to top you, "You Ain't Say'in Noth'in".

    I'm worth talk'in about either for or against.
     
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