My message board has SEO issues; could get some constructive criticism/feedback?

Discussion in 'SEO' started by verbs, Aug 12, 2006.

  1. #1
    So I have a help message board for obese individuals, called ObesityDiscussion.com . It's about 6 months old and is stuck on a PR1 rating (I know PR is not the end all....)

    I got family and friends to sign up in the first month, and since then, I've had a tough time getting new members and getting my site recognized on search engines. When I first started I didn't know what I was doing, have learned a little bit since then, but still need more help.

    My message board has 3 types of information:

    Type 1: 60% of the content is health/obesity related articles from other sites or databases, where I have been putting an outgoing link to the article source and making the anchor text say "Article." After doing some reading, I stopped using the word "Article" as my anchor text and started using words that related better to my site or the article, and tried to use keywords in the anchor text as much as possible. I think my failure to do this in the past has made it harder for the search engines to determine what my site was about. I still have probably 800 articles I have posted on my site where the outgoing link has anchor text that just says "Article." Is it worth going back and changing the anchor text on these older outgoing links to more meaningful anchor text


    Type 2: 35% of the content is healthy recipes from organizations. About 75% of these recipes are going to be Atkins Recipes where each recipe gets its own post, but all I am doing is copying the same disclaimer in each post and attaching a .pdf file below the post (no text visible except a file name to click for download). Am I shooting myself in the foot by not copying/pasting the full recipe text into the body of each post and just attaching a PDF file of the recipe? I know new pages on websites help popularity, so am I forgoing popularity by having 1000 Recipe posts where the only text is a repeating disclaimer? Some of the other recipes link to the homepage of the recipe site whereas others link to the actual URL where the recipe came from. Again, is it worth it to go back and change these links so they contain anchor text that correlates to my website's keywords? Also, when linking back to the website where the information came from, is it better to link to the high PR homepage or to the 0 PR exact location?

    Type 3: 5% original content from people making either original posts or copying their blogs from their blog sites onto the messageboard.


    I just recently started setting up reciprocal links with high PR blogs relating to my site, and know that an ideal blog to setup a reciprocal link with is one with a higher PR and the fewest outgoing links to other sites. I also put a few one way links on related Myspace groups' message boards a few months back to my website but failed to use the appropriate anchor text. Is it worth going back to those myspace links I placed to change the anchor text?

    Now, part of my problem, is that one of my keywords, the most important one "Obesity" isn't even placed on any of the search engines yet. The only search term placed on any search engine is my website name which is "Obesity Discussion," which I hold the #1 spot for, but no one searches for that term anyway so it's useless. I have no link popularity on google which is disturbing.

    My search engine saturation is:

    Google/AOL 159
    HotBot 0
    MSN 35
    Yahoo!/FAST/AltaVista 559


    My link popularity is:

    Google/AOL 0
    HotBot 0
    MSN 28
    Yahoo!/FAST/AltaVista 1950 (about half of these come from having my URL in my signature on unrelated messageboards)

    I only have about 6-7 quality reciprocal links with related messageboards and that is it.

    Any suggestions/tips would be greatly appreciated! :cool:
     
    verbs, Aug 12, 2006 IP
  2. energydude

    energydude Peon

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    verbs,

    I would suggest getting some static html files out on your site. Create some links off your main page that use obesity keywords. Look at inventory.overture.com for obesity keywords, and try to target high search keywords on those pages. Then, on those html pages, put links to your forum. Make sure that you do a few pages to support your keywords. If you are interested, I could draw up some more specific instructions. I have a team that work for my company that do SEO, and creative marketing. Just email me through my profile if you are interested. Hope that helps!
     
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  3. drhyperlaur

    drhyperlaur Well-Known Member

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    hi,

    i'd say your main mistake is that you don't have enough original content, if 60% of the content is copy-pasted from other sites means a huge part of your website is like a mirror to those sites...

    another bad thing is that you have tons of links in the forum and the s/e can't go too deep... i've also seen that you don't have a Site Map link (it's just plain text on the homepage without hyperlink)... you better add there at least the main categories of your forum..

    good luck !
     
    drhyperlaur, Aug 13, 2006 IP
  4. verbs

    verbs Peon

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    The original content part is hard; as more and more people start posting on the site that ratio should go down. For now I wanted to provide a ton of useful information to people; it's difficult doing so without copying and referencing what's already on the web.

    Regarding the sitemap, I rearranged the homepage a little so that on the far left you can see a list of the forums better, links only. I had it setup before so that there was lot of text with links in the center of the page; I'm not sure if you realized those were links.
     
    verbs, Aug 13, 2006 IP
  5. smfseo

    smfseo Well-Known Member

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    #5
    you got session id's in there get rid of session id's first will talk about the rest latter.
     
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  6. verbs

    verbs Peon

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    #6
    You mean session ID's in the URL?

    Is it correct that people with cookies disabled will not be able to maintain a session (i.e. login, access member areas, etc)?

    Is there a way to do this without causing the aforementioned problem?
     
    verbs, Aug 14, 2006 IP
  7. seo-mumbai

    seo-mumbai Well-Known Member

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    #7
    put organal content dont copy and paste
    remove sessiond ID
    make links static from dynamic
    now get revelant backlinks to your site.submt your site to all directorys.
     
    seo-mumbai, Aug 14, 2006 IP
  8. thelouisvilleseo

    thelouisvilleseo Peon

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    #8
    Remove unnecessary links for one.

    Create new content; Hire a copywriter that will create the content cheap.

    Spam, Spam, Spam - Kidding.

    Contact me: 502-403-8542 we can discuss for free.
     
    thelouisvilleseo, Aug 14, 2006 IP
  9. verbs

    verbs Peon

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    #9

    Thanks for the feedback. On all of the studies/recipes/articles that I copy, they all have a unique hyperlink that directs back to the source content, plus I usually delete a few of the lines from the original document, so would that be enough to make Google think it's original content?

    Second, I did add a more organized site-map on the left side of the homepage, so that should allow the spiders to crawl deeper into the certain forums. Will that be of help?
     
    verbs, Aug 15, 2006 IP
  10. verbs

    verbs Peon

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    #10

    When you say remove unecessary links, do you mean outgoing links? How much to copywriters cost?
     
    verbs, Aug 15, 2006 IP
  11. drhyperlaur

    drhyperlaur Well-Known Member

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    #11
    it depends what lines you have removed... check the main keywords density and their positions in the page, it should not be similar to the original links

    now about the sitemap, here is an example:
    you use the link: http://www.obesitydiscussion.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=9df176c6ce5df3ee60aba9285ed42df2&board=1.0 for Obesity section (the first link)

    it's better to use: http://www.obesitydiscussion.com/index.php?board=1.0

    same for all other links
     
    drhyperlaur, Aug 15, 2006 IP
  12. infonote

    infonote Well-Known Member

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    #12
    I think it is illegal to remove content from article sites. Nogt sure though so to all other DP members is it illegal, break TOS?
     
    infonote, Aug 16, 2006 IP
  13. drhyperlaur

    drhyperlaur Well-Known Member

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    it depends, it is illegal to even post entire articles without permission...
    but maybe the source is free and they only ask a backlink or something
     
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  14. verbs

    verbs Peon

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    The lines that I remove are worthless ones like "email story" and stuff like that do not contribute to the article....worthless fluff like that.
     
    verbs, Aug 18, 2006 IP
  15. verbs

    verbs Peon

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    #15

    Alright, Void (from this site) walked me through it and now the Session ID's are gone :) So what would you suggest next to tackle on my to do list?
     
    verbs, Aug 19, 2006 IP