Don't put me in with you polik! I'm having hard enough time just trying to get my point across without you making it worse.
you can get 100.000 "visitors" for less than 50$ on ebay with poups and crap like this; but i think 99% will close the site without even looking at it. afaik you can also rent a few tousand zombie pcs with some "connections". if you change the startpage at this pcs -even just for a day- you may get some serious traffic. just work in a computerstore a few weeks and you get an idea how much infected pcs are out there; and im sure this kind of users cant tell the difference between real links and adsense links and may generate a higher clickrate than just 1.x%
My question is do people take the moral highground out of a. Jeaslousy and resentment b. a moral obliglation to 'do right' It is an interesting question. I suspect the former in a lot of these digital lynchings. In this case, SEOguy is a liar given the rock solid evidence against but there have also been other instances where a bunch of people jump on someone when there isnt much proof and alot of misinformation is spread. There is too much 'player hating' going on. It can be frustrating making $2 or whatever a day with Adsense and it is easy to point fingers at those more successful.
That's for me... and for me alone to know. I'm training to be a doctor and let me tell you they don't make it easy for us! All I'm saying is that it doesn't take a genius to copy & paste adsense code. Dunno, maybe it's just me, but I wouldn't say it's hard. You can even add google ads to your blog now (which btw is hosted by Google aswell). That = easy money.
Amen! Trying to tone it down a little. I went for a walk with my girlfriend and I'm much calmer. It was a nice night out. So, I am a little intrigued on the arbitrage concept or at least using a 2 prong approach with some sites created for rankings as a long term strategy and maybe some other sites that can make money on traffic margins. It is like being a traffic middleman. But that isn't uncommon in most real world industries. Like purchasing a diamond ring from a jewlery store in the mall. They obviously didn't get the diamond from the diamond mine. So there might be 2-3 middlemen that are making money on the markup or wholesale. So if an advertiser is willing to pay $1.00 on Google, and you can get people who are interested in that topic to your site for less than a penny, is it unethical to make money on that advertiser? The advertiser could have gone to the same source you used to get traffic but they didn't. Would it be any less of an arbitrage if you did offline advertising to get people to the site? Google can't tell you how to advertise your site, right? And you aren't forcing people to click the Google Ad, but if you put some quality content on the page and Google can return some relevant results, then there is an opportunity to make money. It is not unlike getting naturally ranked in that topic, only the difference is that instead of the traffic being free, you are paying for it. In the end it just has to be economical. Maybe that is why SEO is such a huge industry. Because if you CAN get ranked, it is usually the most economical way to drive traffic to your site. I suppose there are many ways to turn traffic into dollars. Does anyone have any thoughts on this topic on whether to use a 2 prong stragety to generate revenue?
No, but I have read about people getting banned from Adsense by doing this. Or at least they think they have. IE people spending alot of money on Adwords pushing traffic towards a site with Adsense on it, and then Adsense Account gets closed. Who knows.
I agree somewhat that it is fairly easy to paste some code onto a page, but it is the traffic and clicks that make money. So it may be easy to make $10 per day but $1500 per day would seem to be a matter of duplication and diversity into selected niches. Maybe that is why I was intrigued with this idea in the first place. It seemed logical to me that if the "time" element can be minimized, it would increase your revenue potential. If you could put up more sites or drive more traffic without significantly adding effort, it would increase profit. It is all about efficiency, which is what most businesses strive for. Why should the SEO industry be any different?
I concur... it's a lot easier to find a proxy and hide from the admins than it is to break a habit like "sentence. haha" =)
Well, if you think copying and pasting adsense code onto a webpage is going to make you money, you have a lot to learn ...
LOL wow this is really the most heated thread I have seen since I have been here at DP. I think though it is time for me to remove myself from this before it gets any worse.
Even though I'm sure this guy is full of it, I think that statement you made is full of it too Maybe you weren't around back when Traffic Equalizer came out (maybe you were and still don't know about it)... it was just about the same time I first learned about SEO, I made the templates and keywords for TE sites for a company. I continued my employment there and later saw the adsense stats for those sites I'd made... with nothing more than a 2-3 PR7 links going to each site they would make between $3,000-$8,000 each per month. Of course this only lasted about 6 months.... I'm currently making quite the easy buck with YPN, but I'm not about to tell anyone how I'm doing it... well after it stops working I'll be happy too
Someone that you worked for made $3k - $8k a month for 6 months. Wow. You're right, easy bucks for everyone!!
That's per site The entire point was that anyone with access to a couple PR7s and a $97 program could turn 30 minutes into $8k/month. If that isn't easy money I don't know is