My First $1000.00 Day On Azoogle

Discussion in 'Affiliate Programs' started by aj22, Jan 22, 2008.

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  1. amoeba22

    amoeba22 Peon

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    #721
    Hey aj, is it normal for only 2% of your traffic to click on your ringtone offer? I only have about 50 clicks and only 1 person clicked on the offer. It may be too soon to judge though. Maybe it will go up to 6-8% like you said.
     
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  2. aj22

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    #722
    greg - I have many campaigns and over thousands of ad groups. There's no one magical ad group / landing page. It's about scale.

    amoeba - 2% is quite low. should be around 1/4 of your traffic.
     
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  3. gregdavidson

    gregdavidson Well-Known Member

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    #723
    Well, I was just wondering why you don't use one landing page.
     
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    gregdavidson Well-Known Member

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    #724
    BTW Joobz. I only did a small test to get a feel of it. Only 3 out of 10 ad groups were delivering results.
     
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    #725
    Hi AJ
    I've read through your pages and here are my questions:

    Do you start off bids at 60 cents?

    how many keywords per ad group? I read 150-200 per ad group? or thousands per ad group is fine to?

    what's a good and average CTR to maintain? I read somewhere 0.002 and then 0.001 ? so at minimum for advertising ringtones, what kind of CTR would you say you should maintain?

    Apologize if you have already mentioned this, but just want to make sure..

    Appreciate all of your help in this thread. You do what you can and hopefully all of us take it from there and actually LEARN =)

    I started with yahoo PPC and was breaking even for a while.. then started to make some profit, but the traffic is just too little.. then it went down again to breaking even.. was doing 25$/day revenue and maybe $10 profit tops but the traffic is just not there for me. My landing page has about 50% bounce rate, but conversions are not bad. I tried some dating and other cpa that pays about 2.50-3$/signup. But getting VOLUME of traffic is my main problem right now. For the most part I learned a lot on getting good landing pages made and ads with good CTR as well. But the volume is missing lol
     
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  6. gregdavidson

    gregdavidson Well-Known Member

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    #726
    When using the content network, one keyword could deliver better results than 150 phrases.
     
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  7. nezzz

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    #727
    thanks greg!

    I am starting to see some results.. I setup a few ad groups and got 300,000 impressions and 97 clicks. So my average CTR is 0.03% and average cpc of 23 cents.. none of this is good of course, but I am pretty sure I know why I have such a high cpc and low ctr.

    Since I didn't carefully pick out these keywords and just imported 10,000 keywords...I basically entered 10000 keywords into 5 ad groups and a lot of the keywords may not even have the same target audience towards the offer that I am advertising.

    My big question of the day is the following: WHEN should you pause/delete an ad? How many impressions is a good measure stick to know if the ad is good or not? I know azoogle says 500,000 clicks is what it takes to get the most accurate conversion etc.. but with CTR its obviously not an attainable goal, at least not as of yet for me lol

    So... =) I have an adgroup that received 60,000 impressions with 0.03% ctr, I have an adgroup that received 2500 impressions with 0.03% CTR, then I have an adgroup with 17000 impressions and 0.08% ctr.

    So at what point to you pause the ad? I am pretty sure the standard procedure is to always test 2 ads at a time and test a new ad every X time until you have an ad with a good CTR. So correct if I am wrong about that PLEASE =)

    I just need to know which measuring stick to take when it comes to CTR/impressions.

    Appreciate everything man.. I can see the light =) Although my CTR is horrible I can see it!!

    Keep in mind
     
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  8. MontyzPython

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    #728
    AAAARRRRRGGGGHHHHH!!!!!!

    Sorry, just having an off day. Just got back from my grandfather's wake, checked my stats, and nothing! :mad:

    Spent some money...didn't make much, though.

    I just tweaked some of my e-mail and zip submits, though, so maybe I can get back on track tomorrow.

    M
     
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  9. aj22

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    #729
    2000 keywords per ad group is suicide. This approach sounds like the equilvalent of flushing money down the toilet. I'd go back to the drawing board, nezzz.

    150 max per group, all focused to one subject.

    cat food stuff
    cat food stores
    cat food recipes
    cat food advice

    etc
     
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    #730
    Pointless maybe, but suicide? Why?
     
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  11. gregdavidson

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    #731
    Hey AJ! Why wouldn't you just bid on the keyword "cat food"? That's the general keyword and most of the catfood websites list their site under the general keyword. I'm still a newbie so correct me if I'm wrong.
     
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    #732
    and braod match would pretty much cover these right?

    cat food stuff
    cat food stores
    cat food recipes
    cat food advice
     
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    #733
    Well, for one it will kill your quality score. Yahoo and Google (especially Google) do not like to see thousands of unrelated keywords thrown into each adgroup. You want tightly themed keywords in each group.

    Personally, I find 30 or less is a perfect amount for Google. Yahoo lets you get away with more than that as their QS doesn't seem to be as sensitive.
     
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    #734

    Say you bid broad match of "cat food" for 0.20, and I bid phrase match of "cat food service" for 0.20, and aj bid exact match of [cat food service] for 0.20.

    if QS all the same, aj outbid me and I outbid you, when impr of “cat food service" apears.

    it would be better to bid all the three types, so you can rank high on spefic keywords, while not lose any chance you may not think of.
     
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    #735
    ok yes I think I understand much better now now. So I should do my best to create same-theme targeted ad groups, which will result in higher CTR ads, because I am not just aiming my ads to show on a bunch of random keywords, but instead aiming my ads to show on lets say 100 keywords that I hand-picked and know are targeted towards my ad. Is that correct? :)

    Also, when you listed those 4 "cat food" keywords as a reference, they are meant to be all in 1 ad group right?

    Last but not least, if google content network does not apply QS score, then whats to stop you from just redirecting to the offer? is that a bad way to go?

    thanks once again!
     
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    #736
    QS is not an issue here remember, he is using the content network
     
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    OK, I'm taking this in steps. First, I'm focusing on clicks...specifically cheap clicks.

    I think I've got that figured out. I've found a goldmine of cheap clicks. I'm getting clicks on my RT ad at about $0.10 - $0.15 per click.

    I've gotten 35 clicks, though, with no conversions. I'm pretty much using a redirect to go right to an offer. Damn thing has $9.99 a month across the top, though, which is probably killing conversions.

    So now I'm getting the clicks and they're cheap. How do we get them to convert? Clearly, that's what I need to figure out next.

    M
     
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    gregdavidson Well-Known Member

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    #738
    Use a landing page and convince them to signup on the landing page. Make it clear that they have the ringtones they want, they have them cheap, and they don't need a credit card to signup. Also, are you targeting teenagers because that's who will probably want to signup.
     
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    #739
    Congratz :) I wish I could make $20/day :D lol
    $1000/day is amazing! Good Job :)
     
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    Congrats buddy! Hard work pays off, keep it up :D.
     
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