As some of you may know, i stuck up for CB here a few months back. Not anymore. They are a bunch of hypocritical people who lie, cheat and steal. My account with a decent amount of earnings on it was closed out for "running on an incentive site".. which clearly, i wasn't (even after providing them proof that i wasn't). They blocked my IP address on their incoming mail server, so i cannot communicate with them anymore. So, in summary... don't use ClickBooth if you want to keep your money. I am astonished to see that they are still open. Jared
Take a peek at the news http://www.marketing-elephant.com/viewtopic.php?t=21 Sorry you got hammered sucks when ya work and dont get paid all you can do is let others know to avoid anf get back to work marketing offers that pay! If you need some good known paying firms hit me on PM I hate non payers for marketing
Clickbooth sucks big time check this thread out- http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=578828&highlight=clickbooth It's strongly recommended to stay away from them.
No- i don't need any other companies. I have been doing this for 10 years now and this is the first time i have come across such a horrible company.
I'm working with our compliance team to figure out and isolate your specific issues. We at Clickbooth pride ourselves on our on-time and comprehensive payouts. You can AIM me at CBRelations or one of our support staff at Clickbooth. You can also call or email us anytime. Do you know who your AM was? Our AM's typically are available 24/7 if you need them...if you can PM me your account I will help you with this right away to figure out exactly what happened. In our eyes it is unacceptable for a payment to ever be even a day late. We were publishers before the network and understand the importance of this. We are the only network I know of that isolates issues specifically in order to protect both our publishers and advertisers, as opposed to doing full and general scrubs from honest affiliates we ensure that the offending affiliate is found and each lead is analyzed itself. It takes more time than other networks however it is fairer because honest affiliates will typically see a 20-30% higher return off the same offers with Clickbooth. In fact this is a big part of why we have taken some heat from some overtly dishonest affiliates. I don't think you are one of these affiliates - however I want you to know you have our full staff at your disposal to help in this manner. Please PM me or AIM me with the info above and we will get everything resolved for you ! Thanks a lot, Jay
Of all the cpa networks that I have dealt with - clickbooth is the worst. Stay away from clickbooth. They stop all communication with you after you get the termination notice. That's because they don't want to give you any ammunition to sue them - that's why they stop the communication. I don't believe a word CBjay says.... Clickbooth is digging a big hole for themselves. They can't sue everyone. They would do better treating people better rather than threatening lawsuits.
CBJ... I am shocked at the blatent hatred for click booth on DP. Since DP typically is full of a lot of people that tend to know what they are talking about I can only assume that you are just about as bad as everyone is saying. My advice to you would be to get rid of ClickBooth, start something new and actually use ethics this time.
Jay, affiliates are always right If they say a sponsor sucks, it means they have a reason to say so. So the best way out is to negotiate with unsatisfied affiliates and try to improve the program itself.
thallewell, We are huge fans of Digitalpoint, I think it is a great place for affiliates, all of us at Clickbooth love what Digitapoint has to offer and it is sad to see a couple of members of a competing forum come onto your forums and jeapordize the integrity of your forums with this orchestrated smear campaign. 2-3 individuals which we are aggressively pursuing in both a civil and potentially criminal manner are currently attempting to orchestrate a major smear campaign by posting completely slanderous/libelous information on as many places as possible. They are then dragging in unsuspecting affiliates by preying on an affiliates worst fears. Fact is Clickbooth is by far the most reputable network among honest affiliates and is the network of choice for the majority of the large scale affiliates in the industry. The irony here is we are easily the cleanest and honest of any affiliate network and because of that integrity we have come across some bad apples which we have very quickly ended any relationship with in order to protect both our honest affiliates and advertisers. From top to bottom our company stresses honesty and integrity in everything we do. If any affiliates have an issue we are available 24/7 and if they want to bring any issues on the boards and will approve transparency to the situation we have no problem showing the facts to every party. You may want to notice most of the people with these comments have never posted anything on this forum but these slanderous items. We have had over 50,000 affiliates complete the signup process on Clickbooth and have approved a smaller portion of those. Everyone in our company thinks long term with everything they do. That is why we cannot do business with scammers, incentivizers, and spammers. If you are an honest search, email, or web publisher you will notice we will never send a payment even a day late. In fact the majority of our guys are on a weekly/bi-weekly pay schedule because again we tend to cater to the larger volume affiliates. Now for some history.... If you track this story way back it all began when our owner and CEO as our compliance team shutdown an affiliate for spam and chose not to do business with a specific forum owner (of which the forum owner pretty much begged to do business for 6 plus months). As our owner was brought more info from numerous parties about this forum owners past shady dealings as a self admitted porn / spammer and the numerous allegations by many individuals that this forum owner lied about many things in order to gain free publicity for himself such as revenue (seems his only proof of revenue somehow ended up being a screenshot of a public companies interface and then somehow he ended up bad mouthing that public company in a similar way and they removed a good portion of his earnings). Interesting. Well Once this forum owner alleged to our CEO that we were in the wrong for responding to a public defamatory post about our company which claimed non-payment and we responded with the most basic of the facts which we have piles and piles of documentation on about that specific affiliate being shutdown for violating our terms for spam. You have to understand us and our mission; Our owner is absolutely adamant about cleaning up this industry from the individuals that do things which are unethical whether it be on the advertiser, publisher, or network side. We will not let an affiliate blatantly spam and jeapordize our honest advertisers and affiliates no matter who they know. This then led the forum owner to put up a vote and listed lie after lie then kicked us off before we could respond to many of the lies (which we are suing for and will win in a slander/libel case), the forum owner knowing he has no foot to stand on decided to go the route of pushing lies and you know what - if we didn't feel so strongly about this case we wouldnt have pushed it at all, we will not allow these types of dishonest people to hurt our industry. We will not stop to protect the truth, honesty, and integrity in this industry. We will not stop pursuing this legally with the backing of hundreds of millions of dollars (which we have all from revenue because we are the fastest growing CPA network in the world due to our honesty) because the truth will always win out. This forum owner thinks he can make a name for himself by throwing lies around about all of the most respected companies and leaders in the space - those types of people are leeches and they come and go. We will make sure they do not do anymore damage to any of the honest companies and individuals in this space. I am posting this last response to this if anyone has any questions PM Me as I am available however I need to be there for my affiliates 24/7! Thanks, J
Hey Jay - just an interested by-stander. Once again you seem to be dropping the ball on damage control. You are going on about the WF stuff when a few members HERE have questioned your practices. Don't respond HERE to the WF problems, respond to the members above. Not many hear are going to care about the WF issues, they care about the concerns raised HERE on DP.... hmmmm.... I am available as a consultant for reputation management... drop me a line ... ha ha ha ha ha....
Ok Jay. I'm not into slander, I'm not into libel. If you would like to actually discuss this matter, I'm fully open to it. No attempt has been made to contact me at all by you guys. Not even a blog comment. And btw, I approve any non-abusive blog comment. If you have anything I've said that's false, and can support it, it will be removed. Everything I've said I've cited sources for. I'm reporting on it, and attempting to inform others of the issue. I don't want to see my brethren ripped off, which seems to be the case here. There's documents everywhere, not just on Wickedfire. So here we go. I'd like at least these answered in public, but if you want to discuss more in private, PM me an AIM account and we can talk. 1)No one is arguing against your termination of the affiliate. But truth is, they were not fraudulent leads. They were real people paying. So you got paid. Google, and nearly anywhere else on the planet will pay you for leads before termination. 2)Affiliate information and sources are carefully guarded secrets, and you know that. Why didn't you private message the information to Jon instead of running it out in public? 3)You seem to use the term "spammers" quite liberally. Cragslist spamming, ok, I can understand that. But there were people(not associated with wickedfire) who I've seen saying you guys approved their methods and landing page, but terminated for "incentivizing". Can you explain that at all? Also, I noticed that you yourselves were cited with CAN-SPAM act violations(source). 4)I understand you're trying to bring reputation back to the industry. But can you really find no better way to do it than not paying affiliates? why not pay and terminate? It seems suspect if you/your publishers are making a profit off of your ethical stance here. 5) I'll be honest here. Affiliate networks getting complaints is a fact of life. It happens(though few seem to have the same volume as you). My biggest issue with you guys is the complete utter and total disregard for free speech. People post nasty things about companies. Ok. But C&D orders/lawsuits are ridiculous. But more than that, the bloggers you guys delivered Cease and Desist orders to were just reporting on the events, that's all. Same as a newspaper might. No new accusations were leveled. They just said what they heard and cited a source. And these guys were no real threat to you. Primary audience was wickedfire members, and they had no money to promote their stories or defend themselves with. Please, I beg of you. Explain this action to me. I'm a reasonable person, I assure you. But all the evidence I've seen contradicts what you say. I encourage you to contact me if you take issue. Of course, after responding to the above.
wow! all companies have someone that brings bad publicity... either they are right or not... let's see how this evolves...
so glad i found this I was actually about to start doing some ads for them i hate that you went through that but you saved some of us newbies
I am probably just give up on this issue. even if my account WAS re-instated, and i WAS paid.. i am sure it wouldn't be for the right amount. Jared
This had nothing to do with CB, but I had a similar issue with another large network where I was wrongfully terminated with no action that in any way violated their TOS of governing law... And they decide to keep just under $6k in payments. I was paid and a new account created once I had an attorney contact them about the matter..... So just a thought.
Whenever there are large sums of money involved people tend to get nasty. I have not used CB but I am not entirely convinced they are bad. The response above was not very good public relations. I really don't care who said what to whom about whatever. My advice to CB is to have a presence on the forum but always be on the defensive. The history of some dirty business is not as important if you can find a way to assure your new customers that they will not get ripped off and be treated with respect.
I wont even use Clickbooth from all the 'horror' stories Ive heard ... they are plenty of other networks that you can partner with see below copeac cj cpaempire neverblueads xy7 marketleverage hydra fluxads modernclick azoogleads etc...
Professional companies don’t act like you guys do! That’s for sure! You’re getting all personal when this supposed to be a corporate matter. I can tell you guys suck just by that, refusing to answer on this board, yeah, I bet you do that everywhere. If there is any legit business over there (which I doubt) then you’re probably the reason you guys look bad, your attitude sucks. Hundreds of grunted affiliates from all walks of life just magically find time to tear your company down? Teh! I doubt!