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My beefs with Link-vault

Discussion in 'Link Development' started by Homer, May 31, 2005.

  1. teamshop

    teamshop Plainsman

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    #81
    While that would be the perfect scenario, one link per domain is just not possible at this point in their development. You would only have the opportunity to place a much smaller amount of links due the number of sites in the network and then you'd have people complaining that they weren't placing enough links. It's still early in the game and if you prefer static links over rotating links, they are one of the better options out there and they seem to be dedicated to making a success of the program to this point.
     
    teamshop, Jun 28, 2005 IP
  2. digidogstudios

    digidogstudios Guest

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    #82
    oh wow cry me a river dude

    success means patyience, so what their not perfect now, but neither is coop - sur eyou get traffic from coop but its not static so the value is split in half.

    stop crying and bitching about it, instead why dotn u go to LV forums and make suggestions of improvements ina polite way? im sure coop was just as unprofessional when it started, but it sure got better and i bet most of the improvements were due to constructive critiscism
     
    digidogstudios, Jun 28, 2005 IP
  3. ServerUnion

    ServerUnion Peon

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    #83
    unprofessional? Are you talking about yourpost? have not seen any issue with professionalism.
     
    ServerUnion, Jun 28, 2005 IP
  4. Homer

    Homer Spirit Walker

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    #84
    These cats are as professional as they can be with a rapidly expanding network.
    Side Note: Has anyone thought to assess the value of linkbacks lately? In light of what seems to be going on with some se's? I can see lots of links out there BUT nothing with link: command.:confused: almost 3 months have gone by
    I personally have found quite a few crap links, (or lack thereof) reported it and is was dealt with. But it's alot of policing IMO.

    I have submitted links that were not yet indexed and was denied, but I continue to see questionable link backs...eg no pr, made for adsense, link pages. This may sound a little selfish and ungrateful but I am bringing nothing but good quality to the table. That said, I do appreciate the time effort and energy these folks have put into it. Perhaps more of the members should be proactive in policing.:cool:

    PS: digidogstudios, you can bitch here if yu want...if that's what ails you ;)
     
    Homer, Jun 28, 2005 IP
  5. noppid

    noppid gunnin' for the quota

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    #85
    Wow I'm getting some popcorn, this is fun, there must be a conspiracy! LMAO
     
    noppid, Jun 28, 2005 IP
  6. ChinaNick

    ChinaNick Peon

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    #86
    Yep.. LV has quite a number of crappy pages, but I personally don't care much about it. There are a very large number of affiliate sites in LV, most of which get spidered rarely and so links won't show up soon. The pages I link to seem to be sort of OK (Yes, some are affiliate sites, not perfect, but not too bad either).

    The good point is - with high quality, content-rich sites you get good vaultage even if the sites are very small. I've been experimenting with LV and put in two PR4 sites with total 22 PR4 and 65 PR3 pages chached (only cached pages count in LV), which get me around 3,000 of their 'vaults'. This has so far resulted in 2,400 IBL's and consumes 75% of those vaults. Most IBLs are from rubbish pages, but they don't cost much, about 0.3 vaults each. The stats are not quite complete, but so far I counted 4 PR5, 34 PR4 and around 120 PR3 IBLs from LV, plus a few PR2, about 200 PR1, and 1,500 PR0's (I haven't looked at all links as I don't really have the time). From this, it seems like a good deal, I don't think the many PR0 links are a problem, as at least I get enough PR3 - 5 links to make it worthwile. I didn't yet see major changes in G SERPs as the sites are still in the sandbox, Y & MSN seem to be better and increasing most of the time. It does take much longer to have an effect than the coop.
     
    ChinaNick, Jun 28, 2005 IP
  7. RectangleMan

    RectangleMan Notable Member

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    #87
    I signed up for LV about 2 weeks ago. It can be very confusing but as you begin to understand it you realize it's genious. I think everyone should sign up and add a site or two. This is something you have to experience to really understand. It will take you about a week before you start to understand everything but now I check my LV even more than my adsense. I love watching my vaultage rise and I just keep adding sites and getting more and more links. It's amazingly easy. I have a site with 250 links built up already. Imagine how much work it would have been contacting webmasters trying to get them to link. Some links are worthless but some are very good. Also links do not expire. As long as there is vaultage and the person does not remove the code your link stays. This is perfect for SEO.

    Also you start off with crappy PR0 sites but eventually you can get PR5 ,PR6 and some have reported PR7 links now.

    LV is NOT for the impatient. If you are willing to give it a try you will be rewarded but I think the return you may not truely see for months. This is why I encourage you to get in now. LV is gonna take off big time. It's barely a buzz word in certain forums but give it time and everyone will be placing the code.
     
    RectangleMan, Jul 15, 2005 IP
  8. ferret77

    ferret77 Heretic

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    #88
    I put some new sites in its pretty cool
     
    ferret77, Jul 15, 2005 IP
  9. Homer

    Homer Spirit Walker

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    #89
    Welcome to DP. Nice post. I agree with you now. After yesterday's PR update...OMG...the proof is in the pudding. Patience in for doctors I,ve always thought! But you are correct in this case, BE PATIENT AND YOU SHALL SEE.
    BTW, I also noticed a few DP ads in LV pointing to keyword tracker:cool:.
     
    Homer, Jul 15, 2005 IP
  10. Dominic

    Dominic Well-Known Member

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    #90
    It's limited to a maximum of 20 links from the same domain. So, not problem there.

     
    Dominic, Jul 15, 2005 IP
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    ferret77 Heretic

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    #91
    20 links from one domain is sort of a lot, but i guess it insures one is findable
     
    ferret77, Jul 15, 2005 IP
  12. Dominic

    Dominic Well-Known Member

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    #92
    I've got a ton of links from LV and haven't noticed the same domain sending me 20 links yet. Most I tend to notice are max of 7 from the one site... but 20 is a good default maximum. I'm really against sitewides so I'm happy with the cap.
     
    Dominic, Jul 15, 2005 IP
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    ferret77 Heretic

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    #93
    i thought it might be five, because when you look at the links placed it groups them in 5
     
    ferret77, Jul 15, 2005 IP
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    #94
    It's 5 to a link, and 20 to a domain...

    domain.com gets 5 links
    domain.com/gadgets.php gets 5 links
    domain.com/widgets.php gets 5 links
    domain.com/sumthin.php gets 5 links

    Here you go, 20 links to one domain...

    I've maxxed out my vaultage, got 2471 links, some of them are PR6. Got 3 #1 places, a #2, a #3, a #7, a #9 and two #15...

    It's working for me better than the Coop so I'm sticking with it. Also, I'm already a subscriber, because of it my montlhy revenue went up about 50% so its worth it!

    Give it a try, get a domain there that is cached, add a few links and try it for a month or two and you will see the results. I've done it and I'm really happy with it.
     
    eduardomaio, Aug 17, 2005 IP
  15. Homer

    Homer Spirit Walker

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    #95
    Yep, I am seeing some definate increase in serps now. I can deal with server issues that have been a major pain in the ass over the past few days, as long as I am seeing improvement! I have also topped out my vaultage and had to add more accounts :cool:.
     
    Homer, Aug 17, 2005 IP
  16. Homer

    Homer Spirit Walker

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    #96
    Does anyone know what's up with LV? Servers have been down since Friday night, my sites are hanging, can't login to LV acct and their site is down :(.

    This weekend traffic and AS way down as a result!

    Are they doing upgrades or are they overloaded again?
     
    Homer, Sep 26, 2005 IP
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    #97
    An LV representative posted here this morning that all those using LV will be getting an email explaining the current situation.
     
    yfs1, Sep 26, 2005 IP
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    #98
    Speaking of the email - This just came in

     
    yfs1, Sep 26, 2005 IP
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    Homer Spirit Walker

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    #99
    That is really unfortunate :(. I wonder why there was no plan B :confused:. It's not like we didn't know it was coming and where it was hitting. Don't get me wrong mother nature in nasty sometimes but this could have been avoided, no? There were people here at DP (like Nintendo) giving ample warning to move your hosting if you were on these servers?

    So now all LV paid members lose there link presence for up to 14 days? Forgive me for suggesting this but doesn't this potentionally defeat the purpose?
     
    Homer, Sep 26, 2005 IP
  20. Dominic

    Dominic Well-Known Member

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    #100
    Not at all. The links placed on people's sites are still there and haven't moved anywhere so no problems.

    The only inconvenience having the servers offline is you can't update or change your campaign settings and no new links are placed during the interim.

    Remember, this isn't just moving a website - it's moving a large database, not so simple and not really needed in this case. The data is fine, all links are still where they are supposed to be.

    They let people know in the forums, and on the news page of what would happen in advance and have updated everyone since. I'm happy with that.
     
    Dominic, Sep 26, 2005 IP