My $5000/mo Goal With ClickBank & Arbitrage

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  1. Bulldog-Designs

    Bulldog-Designs Active Member

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    #221
    Okay so i decided to set up my first a PPC camp. at MSN. Hopefully I get a sale :)
     
    Bulldog-Designs, Feb 18, 2007 IP
  2. Telmari

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    #222
    I think it goes along with the idea that you can't throw a product in the customer's face and force them to buy and expect good results.

    You start off slow - arouse some curiosity, develop some intrigue, provoke some thought.

    Then, you further keep their interest by hitting some of their emotional "hot-buttons" - connect with them, bond with them, show them you're one of them.

    Then, making the offer as someone who identifies with them, you offer to give them more information about the product [link to merchant sell page] (instead of shoving it in their face) as something you, as someone similar to them, would honestly recommend to help them out.

    Thereby, instead of going after them straight away, you "tack" back and forth several times to get the sale. :)

    -T
     
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  3. scottmweaver

    scottmweaver Peon

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    #223
    Yeah, I kind of figured that's what the guy meant. Perhaps it's the most effective sales technique, but I'd like some sturdier proof before I switch away from what currently works, and that is being direct about what I feel a product actually offers and then leaving it up to the customer to choose.

    In any case, good info and good feedback. :)
     
    scottmweaver, Feb 19, 2007 IP
  4. 1EightT

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    #224
    Sorry i'm late to reply to this one. What you want to do is setup your adsense sites using legit articles related to your keywords. Make the site as white hat as possible, then use software like ours to cloak traffic to those pages. This takes the risk away from your adsense account since you aren't technically building mfa sites. Since we header redirect the target site never sees the cloaked domain as the referrer either. It just shows the search engine the traffic came from. This is nice because the affiliate program, or adsense, etc will never see your cloaked domains as referrers.
     
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  5. scottmweaver

    scottmweaver Peon

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    #225
    I'm in the process of testing software I created to create multiple affiliate pages on the fly, and I do believe I will add in what you're talking about so users can benefit from both worlds. I've already profited around $50 extra from just using the software, so hopefully that number will increase.

    As I should be, I'm testing it so that it will work effectively for its users once I release it. :D

    I already bought the domain and everything!

    http://www.affiliatereviewmonster.com/
     
    scottmweaver, Feb 21, 2007 IP
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    amnezia Peon

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    #226
    I found msn to be pretty bad, low traffic and expensive keywords
     
    amnezia, Feb 22, 2007 IP
  7. scottmweaver

    scottmweaver Peon

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    #227
    Yeah, I stopped using MSN altogether. I'm sticking with Google and Yahoo as I've had way better results with them.

    I liked MSN while I had free credits though. :D
     
    scottmweaver, Feb 22, 2007 IP
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    #228
    Scott - that software sounds really cool. Is it just your baby or are you developing a component that will allow other people to use it as well? (whether hosted or installed)

    1EightT - what kind of "cloaking" do you mean? i.e. just using frames, or something more sophisticated?
     
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  9. scottmweaver

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    #229
    It's my baby for now, but I'm simultaneously developing it for release. It's very cool though, so far. I'm really happy about it. :D It's making affiliate sites tons easier to create.
     
    scottmweaver, Feb 22, 2007 IP
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    #230
    I have different experience with MSN. Although they have less traffic and high CPC it seems to give me better conversion.
     
    ajeetroy, Feb 22, 2007 IP
  11. scottmweaver

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    #231
    I'm surprised you have any conversions from them. If you are, keep up the good work! :)

    Meanwhile, I'm not getting any from them.. haha.
     
    scottmweaver, Feb 22, 2007 IP
  12. scottmweaver

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    #232
    I just did a sum total of all my expenses and gains and found that I'm about $650 in the red, so it's a good thing that I'm on my way up!

    For a while there, I was trying to push myself to take risks. As you can see here, it cost me quite a bit but I doubt I will have a problem making it back. Now comes the focusing and narrowing of the profit beams. :)

    Anyway, just an update to say .. if you have spent a lot without a lot of gain, you have two options:

    1. Quit - In which case, this isn't where you want to be anyway.
    2. Try, try again - Except this time, bust your ass to make sure it will work!

    As you'll see in my latest blog post about ad segmentation, I do believe it's for the more experienced advertiser with money to throw around. As I don't have that, I'm going with the fishing net approach. I throw a bunch of keywords out there and see what I catch.

    So far, this has been profitable for me. And of course, I am keeping track of my journey the whole way to write a helpful guide for people.

    Anyway, just an update.
     
    scottmweaver, Feb 22, 2007 IP
  13. killafawk

    killafawk Active Member

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    #233
    Anyone have any ideas for me as how to advertise my landing page on a low low low budget? i mean really low. I don't have alot of money and i really want this to work. I cant really barrow money to do this because i don't want to. I want to be able to make money and be able to show people that it is possible, if i got money in my account i would work 110% at it instead of just 50-60%...

    Mainly because i know i can't really get to work without getting a budget to start marketing it on Google. I have 47$ that i can spend on advertising. Is this enough to get the ball rolling then i can support my fee's from the profit i make?

    I really would like this to work out for me, Scott i've talked to you before in PM but, if you have time. Do you think you could possible take me under your wing and teach me some things? just to a point like 1-2$ a day would be great. Just enough to get me started.

    Family members see me trying this way to make money online and they dont understand how it works so they assume its just wasted time. I don't want to be the avg Joe who sits in an office all day making like 15-20$ an hour. Although that isn't bad pay or anything, that life doesnt suit me. I wanna be the entrepreneur who makes his money while working from home. Even the thought of being a doctor for a living doesn't seem good enough. Even though its probably the best job any avg person can get. It doesn't beat making money off the internet while you sit and work on your lazy boy at home!

    So i mean if you have the time or something id be greatful if you could point me in the right direction and give me some pointers before i take that big step. If you don't have the time then if anyone else who knows a thing or two about this field then id be greatful for your help aswell.

    Im not looking for a get rich quick job. I'm personally trying to get like 1 or 2 of these sites up so i can use the profits to build my other websites that im going to be running. Like forums and other things. Money that i can then turn around and use for stuff like Vbullentin License and custom designs. Ill even try and pay for your services if you wish but as you know i dont really have th e money to do that right now but if i start pulling in money i can put aside of that ammount to go to you for helping me out...

    Sorry for the long post but im really dedicated to this and i would love to get started ASAP, thanks for a great thread as well. So happy you started this thread so much information. So if anyone is willing to help me out please send me a PM.

    Thanks,

    K
     
    killafawk, Feb 23, 2007 IP
  14. aditya_sfs

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    #234
    hey killafawk, we are in the same boat. I have also finished building some landing pages and getting started in the business. Though no commissions so far. But i am still into experiments
     
    aditya_sfs, Feb 23, 2007 IP
  15. scottmweaver

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    #235
    K,

    Yeah man. It sounds like you're on the right track, mentally. I don't mind helping you out with pointers and stuff, so feel free to shoot me a PM and we can exchange chat info.

    But while I'm responding to your post, I would like to say that you might want to set your sights for a higher goal, say .. $5/day. This way if you do reach your $2-3/day, you won't be satisfied until you reach $5 but you will have met your main goal already.

    My point here is-- always aim above what you want, so if you undershoot you're not undershooting your main goal, just your subgoal. :D
     
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  16. Nikolas

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    #236
    If you don't have an adwords account yet, buy a voucher with that money, so you will have more budget :)

    There are also cheaper networks like goClick ($0.01 per click) but it is hard to get conversions there, so I wouldn't recommend it to someone who wants more than an "experiment"
     
    Nikolas, Feb 23, 2007 IP
  17. scottmweaver

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    #237
    Arright-- who killed the thread? :)
     
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  18. m0rtal

    m0rtal Well-Known Member

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    #238
    Just to throw in my 2 cents. I just recently started getting more serious about affiliate stuff and well unfortunatly you do need some money if you're going to use Adwords. You need to drop money to test out campaigns. There's one campaign I'm testing right now and I've spent over $100 already with no returns. You might think it would be a good idea to stop but the thing is there is a ton of keyword variations for this particular program so I want to make sure I've ran some testing through all of them just in case there's a gem there somewhere :) (at the same time it's still too early to tell since I'm building a list)

    If you only have $47 to work with well look at it like this...you may hit something that is very profitable and you're on your way but..

    If you spend your whole budget what are you going to do to keep testing new campaigns out?

    You'll also need to get an autoresponder.

    If you want to go the cheap route I suggest you check out http://www.bummarketingmethod.com/
     
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  19. Bulldog-Designs

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    #239
    MSN sucks, no conversions, switching to G :D
     
    Bulldog-Designs, Feb 25, 2007 IP
  20. scottmweaver

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    #240
    Believe me, I've been down that road. I've had a few days where I've spent around $200 with $0 in sales. It was my own fault though.. you have to watch your campaigns like a hawk until they are steady.

    Anyway, can anyone tell me what this bum marketing method thing is all about?

    I'm very curious.
     
    scottmweaver, Feb 25, 2007 IP