Muslims trying to take over the UK!!

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  1. lorien1973

    lorien1973 Notable Member

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    #681
    Yes. It's not like there is evidence of it happening. You make a good point ;)
     
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    gworld Prominent Member

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    #682
    Exactly. Everyone who has been to Belgium or Holland knows and have seen the social problems in the ghetto areas of their cities. A large portion of these areas are populated by immigrants from North Africa and they are considered Muslims. High crime rate is a natural part of these areas in big cities. The type of crimes range from robbery, burglary, car jacking to prostitution and drugs. Now an idiot decides to write in his blog that police is wrong and these type of crimes are not crimes and are Jihad against non believers. If this was the case there is ongoing Jihad in LA, Chicago, New york,.... and New Orleans and the people who are doing it are Americans and not even Muslims. :rolleyes:
     
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    lorien1973 Notable Member

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    #683
    I know you are fond of denial and empty arguments, but when you have muslims raping non muslims and its being excused by their parents, it's a problem. It's not even a problem local to Europe. It happens here, it happens in Africa. Where-ever Islam goes, it happens. It's either a stunning coincidence or an actual problem. I'll let you figure out which :rolleyes:

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but crimes committed in the cities you mention aren't happening because the victim is an infidel and doesn't were the appropriate clothing.
     
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    gworld Prominent Member

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    #684
    It is understandable that some parents try to defend their children by blaming the victim, so what? This was a popular tactic by defense attorneys in USA before the courts decide that you can not put victims on trial and try to make them look guilty by discussing clothes or previous sexual relationship.

    How can people who rape, steal, use drugs or live on prostitution believe in any religion? What does Islam says about dealing with a thief? How does Islamic law deals with sexual relationship outside of marriage? These people will be in a lot more trouble in an Islamic country than they will ever be in Belgium or Holland. As previously said, That blog is written by an idiot and believed by other idiots. :rolleyes: ;)
     
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  5. Pahrump Mike

    Pahrump Mike Life Is Good

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    #685
    I think Europe, as we know it, will soon be a memory. The inability of Europeans to breed at a pace sufficient to maintain their populations and fund their social programs has forced them to import people with vastly different cultures. The people from those cultures aren't having 0 or 1 kids, either, they're often having many more. I don't know how that will be reversed, and Europe has a lousy record of assimilation, so the 16 grandkids of a couple that enters Europe today will still have most of the same cultural, social, and religious values their grandparents have, but they'll be the majority sometime fairly soon. Good luck.
     
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    lorien1973 Notable Member

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    #686
    Yep, so what. You are totally right. Who cares. Someone else does it; so that makes it perfectly okay! That's a cute and cheap rhetorical trick.

    Yeah. They kill the woman, don't they? ;)

    But I'm not overly shocked that, for some reason, you are going out of your way to excuse the behavior.

    Maybe you'll care when "Power for me means that gworld shall look at me, lie down on the ground and kiss my feet." Maybe not.
     
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    pizzaman Active Member

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    #687
    we hav heard this kind of arguments before guess from who
    http://www.kkk.com/
    feel free to look at history to see similiarities
     
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  8. gworld

    gworld Prominent Member

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    #688
    It is no trick, you will see the same situation among other people and cultures when they blame the woman and call her a whore in order to excuse their sons actions. Just think about USA when a woman got raped in front of everyone in a bar by different men because according to them she acted like she wanted it. :rolleyes:

    They also kill the man.

    I am not shocked either that you accept any kind of stupid nonsense in order to justify your bigotry. ;)

    Have you ever been in Malmo where that quote refers too? Do you know that many Swedes refer to foreigners as "svartkalle" (I am not sure about spelling) which means black head? Do you know that they have forced foreigners independent of their jobs and education to live in ghettos with social problems and criminality through their housing programs (All the rentals has to go through government agency)? Is it strange that after many years of discrimination and pushing down a group of people, you will end up with people who are full with hatred and want revenge for what they think is an unfair society? :rolleyes:
     
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  9. lorien1973

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    #689
    Totally similar :rolleyes: Congratulations on making the most nonsensical post of the day. Smoke something better next time :rolleyes:

    No one is talking about anything similar at all. If you deny that there is a movement in Europe, Africa, Canada and the US to impose a medieval set of laws on society, you are blind to reality.
     
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    gworld Prominent Member

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    #690
    The best proof that I am right and you have nothing to say in your defense of bigotry and hatred is your above rant. :rolleyes: :D
     
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    #691
    I was responding to pizzaman. I'm sorry if you cannot follow the thread properly ;)

    It is a trick, and I'm sorry if you cannot see it. Because one person says "i raped her because she wanted it" does not legitimize another person using a similar excuse. Get me?

    You might think this is the case, but in practice, it does not happen in this way.
    http://www.religioustolerance.org/isl_adul1.htm

    Need I remind you of the case just recently that I posted where a woman was raped and she was punished to death, while the rapists were hardly punished at all? I'll be happy to find the story(ies) for you, if you really need it or are willing to read them. But, I doubt, since they are counter to your apologizing, that you would.

    I have heard about Malmo and what goes on in the muslim ghettos there. It's a two edged sword, though. Muslims congregate in there ghettos because they do not want to assimilate into the western culture. They come to their new country but want to keep the traditions/laws and everything they've left behind.

    But here is your problem and its problem worldwide with islam. You have the very vocal/militant segments who effectively become the voice of the community because the more "moderate" ones do not out them or speak up against them. So, you get a fear of all of them. But, that you deny the real problem (the extremists who cause the problems) only exaserbates it, as you try to minimize it and call those who point it out names.
     
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    #692
    accusing the blacks of crimes specialty raping the white woman
    just change the word black and muslem
    read the history you will see the similarity.
     
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  13. gworld

    gworld Prominent Member

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    #693
    I think the above shows how much you know and it is strange that if you have even read my post, you wouldn't post this nonsense. :rolleyes:

    In Sweden all the rentals are controlled by government. The landlord have to report their empty apartments to the government agency and all the people who are looking for Apartments will apply for one to this agency. This was suppose to stop the increase in rents and discrimination against the poor. Instead these agencies have decided to send all the immigrants or "svartkalle" as they call it, to the areas that have social problems and criminality. You can be an engineer, a doctor or a professor in university but as long as you don't have enough money to buy your own place, they will force you to live with alcoholics, drug addicts and prostitutes because you have a black hair color.

    Take my advice and just stop posting about things that you know nothing about. :rolleyes:
     
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  14. lorien1973

    lorien1973 Notable Member

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    #694
    So, now your dispute is simply that because the muslims live together in a city that it gives them a right to cause problems? It's an interesting notion you are putting forth here. 40% of the city is foreign born, the rest of the city has the problem of a population who will not assimilate or speak the language or follow the laws.

    Here's some light reading for you - that I know you won't read - but it's okay. Justifying bad behavior seems to be your mode of operation.

    Sweden as a country has about 9 million people, 1 million of them are immigrants. It has the most liberal asylum laws in Europe, so its foreign born population is growing faster than most countries.

    the people who come into Sweden are not assimilating into the swedish culture. Are you disputing this or are you acceptant of that? Since you seem to be silent on the flaws of adultery in your previous post, I take it you understand the problems with the unequal application of the medieval culture that is being brought with them. In short, they come to Sweden for various reasons but they want to keep their old medieval laws and move them to Sweden. Is that okay, in your book?

    Are you also okay with the muslim communities essentially separating themselves from the mainstream swedish culture, forming hardling mosques that preach violence against other citizens?

    I know you keep trying to find excuses for bad behavior, but be real here. It's amazing that in none of your posts have you faulted anyone who has done wrong here, you have simply deflected the blame to make people not responsible for their actions.
     
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    gworld Prominent Member

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    #695
    Have you ever been to Sweden or Malmo? Have you ever lived there? Do you speak Swedish? I have not been in Sweden for almost 10 years but even then I could see what is going to happen. Swedes are one of the most racist countries in Europe, even if on the surface they talk about equality and any time that you systemically discriminate and push people down, sooner or later you will have violence and people fighting back how ever they can. What happens in Malmo is no different than race riots by blacks in LA.

    While as a bigot, you actively look for faults to blame on people that you hate because they are different, I try to realistically analyze the situation and try to find solutions for the future. A step in the right direction in Europe is to stop the governments policies that push immigrants to the ghettos and instead let them to mix with the rest of society. I live in Vancouver with large communities of Indians, Iranians and Chinese and while we have concentration of these groups in some areas, we do not have the ghetto problem as Europe has because our government does not decide where the people live and force them to live there.
     
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    #696
    these guys will do anything to shift the blame away from muslims, won't they?? One of these days they will wake up and see what is currently happening, I just think it will be too late...
     
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  17. Pahrump Mike

    Pahrump Mike Life Is Good

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    #697
    Would Native Americans have been racists if they somehow managed to slow or stop the great influx of Europeans to North America? Is preservation of your way of life, your society, your culture bad for everyone, or just whites?
     
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    #698
    i am against any one bunching up a group of people and wanting to blame all for the crimes of a few among them. doesn't matter if they are blacks jews muslems mexicans or whatever. this is exactly what racist and prejudice people try to do and most of the time they use fear to gather support. it can be as overt as the nazis and kkk or covert as racial profiling ,not renting to blacks or what is going on with the muslems by some small minded people. nobody says all these things have not happened the problem is the collective blame and response. it does not even matter how many people agree with you after all nazis convinced all the germans that jews must be killed and kkk enjoyed large popular support in the south. lets learn from the past and not walk that shameful path again.
     
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  19. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #699
    I've seen it all now. Gworld regularly defending terrorists at all costs, now he's defending rapists. Imagine for a moment they were Christians or Jews. My oh my how his posts would be a full 180 degrees.

    Not to concerned with pizzaboy, as he does the same. He has an excuse though...he doesn't know any better. BTW, if the KKK is your bag of tricks (you seem to give them a lot of respect here on the forum), you might be interested in who is aligning with them.
     
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    #700
    there is not much of argument you can put up so back to your childish name calling
     
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